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Larry Bud
 
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Default Holy crap! My home made drum sander actually works!

Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally got
squared away. Today I received the velco strip and 100 grit velcro
sandpaper... I think it's 25' of each stuff.

The velcro strip was a bit hairy to get on without any bubbles, and I
wasn't sure how "tight" the spiral should be edge to edge. Turns out I
believe you could have a good 1/8-1/4" spacing without worry.

Once I got the velco on, I put the sandpaper spiral going the opposite
direction. I cut a slot for the start of the paper to go into (only
about 1/2" wide), wrapped it as tight as I could, and trimmed it off.

This thing works like a freakin' charm! I can't believe, I'm so happy.
I have 4 white oak panels which are 20x20 to sand down... After the
panels dried there was a slight cupping of the entire panel (wet wood,
perhaps?). I put the cupped side down, so it began to sand in the
center of the panel. I drew a bunch of lines on the board with pencil
so I could see high/low spots. I pushed it through with 1/2" MDF
piece.. kinda like a giant pushblock.

By the time I was on the 3rd panel, I had the technique down flat.
Took me 5 minutes to do each panel side... and they are FLAT!

I'll try and get some pics up on my website this week to show how it
works. Still need to put some finishing touches on the stand, such as
side edging for the table, a guard for the belt, and a power switch.
This thing will do 24" panels... I could certainly see upgrading this
in the future to do 30 or 36" now that I have the confidence that it
will work!

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On 4 Feb 2005 17:21:52 -0800, "Larry Bud"
wrote:

Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally got
squared away. Today I received the velco strip and 100 grit velcro
sandpaper... I think it's 25' of each stuff.

The velcro strip was a bit hairy to get on without any bubbles, and I
wasn't sure how "tight" the spiral should be edge to edge. Turns out I
believe you could have a good 1/8-1/4" spacing without worry.

Once I got the velco on, I put the sandpaper spiral going the opposite
direction. I cut a slot for the start of the paper to go into (only
about 1/2" wide), wrapped it as tight as I could, and trimmed it off.

This thing works like a freakin' charm! I can't believe, I'm so happy.
I have 4 white oak panels which are 20x20 to sand down... After the
panels dried there was a slight cupping of the entire panel (wet wood,
perhaps?). I put the cupped side down, so it began to sand in the
center of the panel. I drew a bunch of lines on the board with pencil
so I could see high/low spots. I pushed it through with 1/2" MDF
piece.. kinda like a giant pushblock.

By the time I was on the 3rd panel, I had the technique down flat.
Took me 5 minutes to do each panel side... and they are FLAT!

I'll try and get some pics up on my website this week to show how it
works. Still need to put some finishing touches on the stand, such as
side edging for the table, a guard for the belt, and a power switch.
This thing will do 24" panels... I could certainly see upgrading this
in the future to do 30 or 36" now that I have the confidence that it
will work!



It looks like a great project! I'll be looking forward to the
pictures.

--RC
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Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

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Larry wrotesnip
Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally got
squared away. snip


Now tell us how you made the base for your lathe-mounted disc sander...I need
to know. Tom
Work at your leisure!
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Nice to read about something that DIDN'T go haywire for a change! :-)


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Larry Bud wrote:

This thing will do 24" panels... I could certainly see upgrading this
in the future to do 30 or 36" now that I have the confidence that it
will work!


Glad you fared better than my treadmill belt sander.

(It DID work, it just wasn't very practical. It ate expensive belts for
lunch and asked for more.)

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"Larry Bud" wrote in message
oups.com...
Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally got
squared away. Today I received the velco strip and 100 grit velcro
sandpaper... I think it's 25' of each stuff.

Once I got the velco on, I put the sandpaper spiral going the opposite
direction. I cut a slot for the start of the paper to go into (only
about 1/2" wide), wrapped it as tight as I could, and trimmed it off.

This thing works like a freakin' charm! I can't believe, I'm so happy.
I have 4 white oak panels which are 20x20 to sand down... After the
panels dried there was a slight cupping of the entire panel (wet wood,
perhaps?). I put the cupped side down, so it began to sand in the
center of the panel. I drew a bunch of lines on the board with pencil
so I could see high/low spots. I pushed it through with 1/2" MDF
piece.. kinda like a giant pushblock.


Great job Larry. It's cool when a project comes together. Please do post a
few pics when you get the chance. A lot of us enjoy simply looking at the
successes of each other.

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-Mike-




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In article .com,
"Larry Bud" wrote:

Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally got
squared away. Today I received the velco strip and 100 grit velcro
sandpaper... I think it's 25' of each stuff.

The velcro strip was a bit hairy to get on without any bubbles, and I
wasn't sure how "tight" the spiral should be edge to edge. Turns out I
believe you could have a good 1/8-1/4" spacing without worry.

Once I got the velco on, I put the sandpaper spiral going the opposite
direction. I cut a slot for the start of the paper to go into (only
about 1/2" wide), wrapped it as tight as I could, and trimmed it off.

This thing works like a freakin' charm! I can't believe, I'm so happy.
I have 4 white oak panels which are 20x20 to sand down... After the
panels dried there was a slight cupping of the entire panel (wet wood,
perhaps?). I put the cupped side down, so it began to sand in the
center of the panel. I drew a bunch of lines on the board with pencil
so I could see high/low spots. I pushed it through with 1/2" MDF
piece.. kinda like a giant pushblock.

By the time I was on the 3rd panel, I had the technique down flat.
Took me 5 minutes to do each panel side... and they are FLAT!

I'll try and get some pics up on my website this week to show how it
works. Still need to put some finishing touches on the stand, such as
side edging for the table, a guard for the belt, and a power switch.
This thing will do 24" panels... I could certainly see upgrading this
in the future to do 30 or 36" now that I have the confidence that it
will work!


Congrats! It's always nice when a project goes well.
Did you work from plans?
Post some pic in ABPW, will ya?

*tips hat*

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Rob
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Larry Bud wrote:
Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally

got
squared away. Today I received the velco strip and 100 grit velcro
sandpaper... I think it's 25' of each stuff.


I put togther a website with this project

http://larrybud/Excelsior/wood/index.htm

Go to TOOLS.

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Larry Bud wrote:
Larry Bud wrote:
Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally

got
squared away. Today I received the velco strip and 100 grit velcro
sandpaper... I think it's 25' of each stuff.


I put togther a website with this project

http://larrybud/Excelsior/wood/index.htm

Go to TOOLS.


For crying out loud, that's my local machine... try this

http://www.areddy.net/wood

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Larry Bud wrote:

For crying out loud, that's my local machine... try this

http://www.areddy.net/wood


Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick ass!!!!!!!!!

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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
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Now THATS cool! --dave
"Silvan" wrote in message
...
Larry Bud wrote:

For crying out loud, that's my local machine... try this

http://www.areddy.net/wood


Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick ass!!!!!!!!!

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/



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On 5 Feb 2005 08:11:39 -0800, the inscrutable "Larry Bud"
spake:

Ah, that's better.

http://www.areddy.net/wood


Very cool. Congrats on finishing it. Total cost?

You're hand-feeding boards and panels through it? Does it leave
any varied-depth marks when you stop midway, or do you use pushsticks
to eliminate that?

Holy moly! You're spinning that thing QUICK, aren't you?


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http://www.areddy.net/wood

Very cool. Congrats on finishing it. Total cost?


Around $150. Would have been more if I didn't have the table lying
around.

You're hand-feeding boards and panels through it? Does it leave
any varied-depth marks when you stop midway, or do you use

pushsticks
to eliminate that?


I'm using a push "board". Since I was sending 3/4" stock through, I
used a 1/2" MDF board. I need to attach some handles, as I was just
pushing the edge of it.

I did NOT get varied depth marks, but I also didn't stop at any time.



Holy moly! You're spinning that thing QUICK, aren't you?


I am, I guess, but I calculated it out so that it's moving the the same
speed as a commercial sander.

One thing though, the pressure that is required to push a board through
if you try to take too much off in one pass is quite high. Of course,
I was pushing white oak through it too. Maybe I'll put some mahogany
and cherry together to see how that works.

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On 5 Feb 2005 08:11:39 -0800, "Larry Bud"
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Larry Bud wrote:
Larry Bud wrote:
Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally

got
squared away. Today I received the velco strip and 100 grit velcro
sandpaper... I think it's 25' of each stuff.


I put togther a website with this project

http://larrybud/Excelsior/wood/index.htm

Go to TOOLS.


For crying out loud, that's my local machine... try this

http://www.areddy.net/wood


Thanks Larry. That's an excellent description of making the sander --
and the projects are cool too.

--RC

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

-- Suzie B
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On 4 Feb 2005 17:21:52 -0800, "Larry Bud" wrote:

Great news, Larry.. thanks for the update...
I'd suggest that you build the larger model right now, while all those details
are fresh in your mind..
As a favor in return for your updates, just send me the prototype one and I'll
ummm...
handle disposal for ya... *g*

Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally got
squared away. Today I received the velco strip and 100 grit velcro
sandpaper... I think it's 25' of each stuff.

The velcro strip was a bit hairy to get on without any bubbles, and I
wasn't sure how "tight" the spiral should be edge to edge. Turns out I
believe you could have a good 1/8-1/4" spacing without worry.

Once I got the velco on, I put the sandpaper spiral going the opposite
direction. I cut a slot for the start of the paper to go into (only
about 1/2" wide), wrapped it as tight as I could, and trimmed it off.

This thing works like a freakin' charm! I can't believe, I'm so happy.
I have 4 white oak panels which are 20x20 to sand down... After the
panels dried there was a slight cupping of the entire panel (wet wood,
perhaps?). I put the cupped side down, so it began to sand in the
center of the panel. I drew a bunch of lines on the board with pencil
so I could see high/low spots. I pushed it through with 1/2" MDF
piece.. kinda like a giant pushblock.

By the time I was on the 3rd panel, I had the technique down flat.
Took me 5 minutes to do each panel side... and they are FLAT!

I'll try and get some pics up on my website this week to show how it
works. Still need to put some finishing touches on the stand, such as
side edging for the table, a guard for the belt, and a power switch.
This thing will do 24" panels... I could certainly see upgrading this
in the future to do 30 or 36" now that I have the confidence that it
will work!




mac

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On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:05:29 -0800, mac davis
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Yea, Larry send him your prototype, but you send me the 1.5hp motor. You should
be able buy another motor for even less than what you pay for it earlier. :-)

While planning to make a thickness sander, I have found various sites you might
be interested. You might wanna add a DC geared feed conveyer in the near future,
here are some website's for Thickness sanders parts:

DC Feed motors and motors:
http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.as...key word=GIDD

Pillar block bearing:
http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.as...k eyword=PBPB

Aluminum Tube:
http://www.industrialmetalsales.com/
http://www.machinist-materials.com/D...tube_stock.htm
http://www.globaltecheng.com/alutubi...OVMTC=standard

Yet another thickness Sander:
http://blackcreekstrings.homestead.com/Sander.html
http://www.ukuleles.com/BuildingHowTo/sandthck.html

Disclaimer...no relation to these websites.


On 4 Feb 2005 17:21:52 -0800, "Larry Bud" wrote:

Great news, Larry.. thanks for the update...
I'd suggest that you build the larger model right now, while all those details
are fresh in your mind..
As a favor in return for your updates, just send me the prototype one and I'll
ummm...
handle disposal for ya... *g*

Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally got
squared away. Today I received the velco strip and 100 grit velcro
sandpaper... I think it's 25' of each stuff.

The velcro strip was a bit hairy to get on without any bubbles, and I
wasn't sure how "tight" the spiral should be edge to edge. Turns out I
believe you could have a good 1/8-1/4" spacing without worry.

Once I got the velco on, I put the sandpaper spiral going the opposite
direction. I cut a slot for the start of the paper to go into (only
about 1/2" wide), wrapped it as tight as I could, and trimmed it off.

This thing works like a freakin' charm! I can't believe, I'm so happy.
I have 4 white oak panels which are 20x20 to sand down... After the
panels dried there was a slight cupping of the entire panel (wet wood,
perhaps?). I put the cupped side down, so it began to sand in the
center of the panel. I drew a bunch of lines on the board with pencil
so I could see high/low spots. I pushed it through with 1/2" MDF
piece.. kinda like a giant pushblock.

By the time I was on the 3rd panel, I had the technique down flat.
Took me 5 minutes to do each panel side... and they are FLAT!

I'll try and get some pics up on my website this week to show how it
works. Still need to put some finishing touches on the stand, such as
side edging for the table, a guard for the belt, and a power switch.
This thing will do 24" panels... I could certainly see upgrading this
in the future to do 30 or 36" now that I have the confidence that it
will work!




mac

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WD wrote:
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:05:29 -0800, mac davis


wrote:

Yea, Larry send him your prototype, but you send me the 1.5hp motor.

You should
be able buy another motor for even less than what you pay for it

earlier. :-)

While planning to make a thickness sander, I have found various sites

you might
be interested. You might wanna add a DC geared feed conveyer in the

near future,
here are some website's for Thickness sanders parts:


thanks.

I'm not sure how I would attach the conveyor. The bottom of the table
is blocked off where it attaches to the base via the piano hinge. I
think any commercial sander would be support by its corners, and the
bottom would be open.

I would also have to check out how the board would stay on the conveyor
without being flung across the room!

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Can anyone comment on the drum sander plans by Moritz Designs- or any other
complete dimensioned plans? Thanks, Jim

Larry Bud wrote in message
oups.com...
Last week I posted a message about truing the drum, which I finally got
squared away. Today I received the velco strip and 100 grit velcro
sandpaper... I think it's 25' of each stuff.

The velcro strip was a bit hairy to get on without any bubbles, and I
wasn't sure how "tight" the spiral should be edge to edge. Turns out I
believe you could have a good 1/8-1/4" spacing without worry.

Once I got the velco on, I put the sandpaper spiral going the opposite
direction. I cut a slot for the start of the paper to go into (only
about 1/2" wide), wrapped it as tight as I could, and trimmed it off.

This thing works like a freakin' charm! I can't believe, I'm so happy.
I have 4 white oak panels which are 20x20 to sand down... After the
panels dried there was a slight cupping of the entire panel (wet wood,
perhaps?). I put the cupped side down, so it began to sand in the
center of the panel. I drew a bunch of lines on the board with pencil
so I could see high/low spots. I pushed it through with 1/2" MDF
piece.. kinda like a giant pushblock.

By the time I was on the 3rd panel, I had the technique down flat.
Took me 5 minutes to do each panel side... and they are FLAT!

I'll try and get some pics up on my website this week to show how it
works. Still need to put some finishing touches on the stand, such as
side edging for the table, a guard for the belt, and a power switch.
This thing will do 24" panels... I could certainly see upgrading this
in the future to do 30 or 36" now that I have the confidence that it
will work!



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Great machine!!! I'm in the process of building one for my shop as well and hope that you could give me some advice.

What type of bearings did you use (bronze or ball bearing)? Do you think that 3/4 inch rod would be sufficient for a 30" wide drum? What did you do to ensure that the drum is securely fastened to the rod? And finally, what type of glue did you use to assemble the drum?

In advance, thanks for your help!

Scott
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