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A couple dozen fence posts to remove.
After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 7/27/2014 12:15 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw When they invented the lever I wonder if they knew it would sell so well. |
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On 7/27/2014 12:15 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw If we think about what we are doing there is always and easier way, if it is legal and safe. |
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw That's a winner! I've just used a 2x and a 45degre angle (a lever to convert horizontal to vertical motion) and pulled them with a rope tied to my truck but that's even easier than bringing the truck around. The problem is that both techniques need an in-tact post. Often they're pretty well rotten (the reason they're being replaced). |
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On 7/27/14, 7:32 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 7/27/2014 12:15 AM, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw If we think about what we are doing there is always and easier way, if it is legal and safe. And dynamite is so messy. :-) -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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-MIKE- wrote in :
A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw Been there, done that: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/bumper$20jack$20fence$20post |
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On 7/27/14, 2:10 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
-MIKE- wrote in : A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw Been there, done that: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/bumper$20jack$20fence$20post HAHA!! Yes, there are very few original ideas left in the world. Funny, most of the manufactured post removers are simply altered versions of the old bumper jacks talked about in those threads. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. |
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On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. Sure, but the beauty of the shop jack is that everyone has one (right?). There is no need for anything special (I really don't want to take the car jacks out of the car - ever ;-). OTOH, I could probably use a bottle jack from time to time (generally use a shop jack because it has a lower profile). |
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On 7/27/2014 4:45 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. Sure, but the beauty of the shop jack is that everyone has one (right?). There is no need for anything special (I really don't want to take the car jacks out of the car - ever ;-). OTOH, I could probably use a bottle jack from time to time (generally use a shop jack because it has a lower profile). As I was reading this thread it occurred to me that many modern vehicles in the US no longer have a Post type jack but some version of the older screw type jack. I have had a 2002 Cavalier, 2005 Astro , and a 2010 Cobalt, and all had screw type jacks. |
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On 7/27/14, 5:58 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 7/27/2014 4:45 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. Sure, but the beauty of the shop jack is that everyone has one (right?). There is no need for anything special (I really don't want to take the car jacks out of the car - ever ;-). OTOH, I could probably use a bottle jack from time to time (generally use a shop jack because it has a lower profile). As I was reading this thread it occurred to me that many modern vehicles in the US no longer have a Post type jack but some version of the older screw type jack. I have had a 2002 Cavalier, 2005 Astro , and a 2010 Cobalt, and all had screw type jacks. Are you talking about the scissor jacks? I think the reason (besides space) that they changed the style of jacks that come in cars is because of safety and the fact that cars don't have real bumpers any more. Try lifting a newer car by the bumper and see what likely happens. :-) Also, those bumper post jacks could slip out very easily. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. Fence stretcher, bead breaker, post remover, building jack (to level outbuildings) changing tires on tractors/implements, vitually anything that needs moving or tightening. |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:58:09 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: On 7/27/2014 4:45 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. Sure, but the beauty of the shop jack is that everyone has one (right?). There is no need for anything special (I really don't want to take the car jacks out of the car - ever ;-). OTOH, I could probably use a bottle jack from time to time (generally use a shop jack because it has a lower profile). As I was reading this thread it occurred to me that many modern vehicles in the US no longer have a Post type jack but some version of the older screw type jack. I have had a 2002 Cavalier, 2005 Astro , and a 2010 Cobalt, and all had screw type jacks. Honestly, I don't know what sort of jack my last three or four cars have/had. I never used them. I think the last flat (so flat I had to, or could, change the tire) was on my '78 Ford and that was in '85 (just before we got the '85 Voyager). |
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I have used an 8 foot 4x4 and a chain with good results. Put the chain
around the 4x4 about a foot up from the end, then wrap double around the post, and link them both tightly together. Lift up on the 4x4. To get another bite lower, just lower the 4x4, slide the chain down the post, and it will grab again when you lift again. -- Jim in NC "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... On 7/27/2014 12:15 AM, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw When they invented the lever I wonder if they knew it would sell so well. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. Check out Porta Power Ram. They've been around since the '50s |
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On 7/26/2014 9:15 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw Here you go. HF to the rescue: http://www.harborfreight.com/t-post-lifter-38444.html |
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jo4hn wrote:
On 7/26/2014 9:15 PM, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw Here you go. HF to the rescue: http://www.harborfreight.com/t-post-lifter-38444.html I would be hard pressed to fab one for that price - could not if I considered my time. -- -Mike- |
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On 7/28/14, 8:12 AM, jo4hn wrote:
On 7/26/2014 9:15 PM, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw Here you go. HF to the rescue: http://www.harborfreight.com/t-post-lifter-38444.html Right. I saved 30 bucks and a trip. :-) -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 7/28/14, 8:21 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
jo4hn wrote: On 7/26/2014 9:15 PM, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw Here you go. HF to the rescue: http://www.harborfreight.com/t-post-lifter-38444.html I would be hard pressed to fab one for that price - could not if I considered my time. My buddy and I came up with ours in about 10 minutes. The trip to HF would be thrice that long, plus I'd now have to store that thing. (I hate uni-taskers.) Somewhere the line would've been crossed at which I would buy one, perhaps 50? But I was done with the job in the time it would've taken me to get to HF and back. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 06:12:52 -0700, jo4hn
wrote: On 7/26/2014 9:15 PM, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw Here you go. HF to the rescue: http://www.harborfreight.com/t-post-lifter-38444.html BUT - it's only good for lifting "T" posts. A Jack-all will pull ANY post, and jack up your pickup truck, and stretch your fence, and - and - and. |
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Given some bottle jacks and enough cribbing, you can move the planet. Watch a longshoreman at work some time. Lew |
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On 7/26/2014 9:15 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw I much prefer my loader. Steve |
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:16:24 -0700, SteveB wrote:
On 7/26/2014 9:15 PM, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw I much prefer my loader. Steve And with downpressure on an industrial loader you can reseat "floaters" too. Friend's farm is on top of a hill - hydrogeological dome. It's one big spring underneath - building concrete sealed silo they had to put twice as much concrete under ground (concrete boat) to float the silo as was used in the silo. Every spring he needs to push half the wood fence posts back into the ground - one advantage of steel posts is they don't "float". |
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On 7/26/2014 9:15 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw Not as much fun as a little C-4. ;-) |
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On 7/27/14 5:43 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. Fence stretcher, bead breaker, post remover, building jack (to level outbuildings) changing tires on tractors/implements, vitually anything that needs moving or tightening. BEST thing about the old style bumper jacks is no freaking oil leaking out over the years! -BR --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On 7/27/14 7:42 PM, Morgans wrote:
I have used an 8 foot 4x4 and a chain with good results. Put the chain around the 4x4 about a foot up from the end, then wrap double around the post, and link them both tightly together. Lift up on the 4x4. To get another bite lower, just lower the 4x4, slide the chain down the post, and it will grab again when you lift again. Old trick is to tie the chain to the bumper and bottom edge of the post. Place an old car rim (no tire) as close to the post as possible and drape the chain over the rim. As you pull forward with the vehicle, the car rim acts as a pulley and pulls straight up on the post. -BR --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 07:54:22 -0600, Brewster wrote:
On 7/27/14 7:42 PM, Morgans wrote: I have used an 8 foot 4x4 and a chain with good results. Put the chain around the 4x4 about a foot up from the end, then wrap double around the post, and link them both tightly together. Lift up on the 4x4. To get another bite lower, just lower the 4x4, slide the chain down the post, and it will grab again when you lift again. Old trick is to tie the chain to the bumper and bottom edge of the post. Place an old car rim (no tire) as close to the post as possible and drape the chain over the rim. As you pull forward with the vehicle, the car rim acts as a pulley and pulls straight up on the post. A 2x, placed at a 45-degree angle from the post down to the ground does the same thing. It has to be blocked at the top and the bottom has to be braced against the ground, though. The jack sounds a lot easier, though. |
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 07:50:52 -0600, Brewster wrote:
On 7/27/14 5:43 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. Fence stretcher, bead breaker, post remover, building jack (to level outbuildings) changing tires on tractors/implements, vitually anything that needs moving or tightening. BEST thing about the old style bumper jacks is no freaking oil leaking out over the years! Screw/scissors jacks don't leak, either. Bumper jacks take up more trunk (or back seat) space and are dangerous (all jacks are dangerous but nothing like a bumper jack). As has been noted here, modern bumpers wouldn't survive a bumper jack if you tried. In short, good riddance. |
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On 8/2/14, 9:56 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 07:50:52 -0600, Brewster wrote: On 7/27/14 5:43 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. Fence stretcher, bead breaker, post remover, building jack (to level outbuildings) changing tires on tractors/implements, vitually anything that needs moving or tightening. BEST thing about the old style bumper jacks is no freaking oil leaking out over the years! Screw/scissors jacks don't leak, either. Bumper jacks take up more trunk (or back seat) space and are dangerous (all jacks are dangerous but nothing like a bumper jack). As has been noted here, modern bumpers wouldn't survive a bumper jack if you tried. In short, good riddance. My comments are referring to post pulling, The bumper jack will give you several feet of travel before repositioning. As far as car jacking, given a bumper that accepts a bumper jack, the only advantage (in my mind) is not having to crawl on the ground to position a bottle or screw jack. Beyond that, bumper jacks are freaking unstable on anything but a solid surface. In a 4x4 the advantage of a bumper jack is you often need several feet of travel to unload the suspension before the wheel leaves the ground. -BR --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On 8/3/2014 9:38 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 8/2/14, 9:56 AM, wrote: On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 07:50:52 -0600, Brewster wrote: On 7/27/14 5:43 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: On 7/27/14, 3:02 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:15:14 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: A couple dozen fence posts to remove. After the first two, I decided I needed a change in technique. :-) http://youtu.be/iMovNjHPRUw The old "jaxk-all" or "handyman" jack works even better. a wrap of chain around the post, hook over the snout of the jack, and "bob's your uncle" -- Even an old bumper jack works fine - and a lot easier to manipulate into position than the trolley jack. True! I stated in another reply that most of the manufactured post pullers I saw were just modified bumper jacks. Seems like there would be a million uses for one of those given enough attachments. Fence stretcher, bead breaker, post remover, building jack (to level outbuildings) changing tires on tractors/implements, vitually anything that needs moving or tightening. BEST thing about the old style bumper jacks is no freaking oil leaking out over the years! Screw/scissors jacks don't leak, either. Bumper jacks take up more trunk (or back seat) space and are dangerous (all jacks are dangerous but nothing like a bumper jack). As has been noted here, modern bumpers wouldn't survive a bumper jack if you tried. In short, good riddance. My comments are referring to post pulling, The bumper jack will give you several feet of travel before repositioning. As far as car jacking, given a bumper that accepts a bumper jack, the only advantage (in my mind) is not having to crawl on the ground to position a bottle or screw jack. Beyond that, bumper jacks are freaking unstable on anything but a solid surface. In a 4x4 the advantage of a bumper jack is you often need several feet of travel to unload the suspension before the wheel leaves the ground. -BR --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- And better than a bumper jack for length is a Rail Road jack - it is 6' long! Those will jack up a SUV when over some rocks and has strength to do it. The only issue is finding one. Some have Tractor jacks almost the same. Tall ones. Tractor sales or third party tractor sales. Martin |
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 18:42:49 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote: snip --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- And better than a bumper jack for length is a Rail Road jack - it is 6' long! Those will jack up a SUV when over some rocks and has strength to do it. The only issue is finding one. Some have Tractor jacks almost the same. Tall ones. Tractor sales or third party tractor sales. Martin These work well. http://www.quadratec.com/products/92200_00_07.htm -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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On 9/2/14, 9:08 AM, Nova wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 18:42:49 -0500, Martin Eastburn wrote: snip --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- And better than a bumper jack for length is a Rail Road jack - it is 6' long! Those will jack up a SUV when over some rocks and has strength to do it. The only issue is finding one. Some have Tractor jacks almost the same. Tall ones. Tractor sales or third party tractor sales. Martin These work well. http://www.quadratec.com/products/92200_00_07.htm Yep, The HighLifts are the 'go-to' jack for the off road crowd. Basically a re-engineered version of the old bumper jack and they tuck right up to a roll bar for easy access and storage. -BR --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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