On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

based soley on the time, and your description, west coast billing, 200$
doesnt sound unreasonable for either party. 300 would be better, but more
than that and i think you mad out like a bandit. less than 150 and i bet
you get another call within a week or two from that guys friend wanting the
same lowball job.

wait this is san francisco.. double everything i said, those were seattle
prices g

randy

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

"Bay Area Dave" writes:

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.

You want me to screw around with somebody else's stuff it's $900/8 hr day or
$500/4 hrs, portal to portal.

You got that right, you're paying for my driving time as well as for my
skill to do the work.

Also add $25 fuel charge to cover that $2.00/gallon gasoline.

HTH



--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures

Tue, Mar 9, 2004, 11:20pm (EST+5) (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
snip spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) snip

Homer, you can be doing other things while the coats dry. It
wouldn't be right to charge for drying time. I don't include any paint,
or finish, drying time as work time. Of course, I'm not on the left
coast either.

JOAT
That the peope have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves
and the state.
- Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
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(J T) wrote in message ...
Tue, Mar 9, 2004, 11:20pm (EST+5) (Bay Area Dave)
snip spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) snip

Homer, you can be doing other things while the coats dry. It
wouldn't be right to charge for drying time. I don't include any paint,
or finish, drying time as work time. Of course, I'm not on the left
coast either.

I disagree. Depending on his shop setup he may not be able do any
other work while the coats dry. Even if he had a separate finish room
he probably wouldn't be able to do any other finishing without causing
problems.

Of course, I'm just an occassional weekend woodworker so what do I
know? g
--
Jim

buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

huh?

whats a 'buck-three-ninety-eight'? is that iraq currency or something?

randy

"Bob S." wrote in message
...
buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

A way of saying "why are you asking? Charge what you would if you had to
do it again tomorrow."

Prevailing wage, anyone?

"xrongor" wrote in message
news:z5u3c.530427$na.1280099@attbi_s04...
huh?

whats a 'buck-three-ninety-eight'? is that iraq currency or something?

randy

"Bob S." wrote in message
...
buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys
charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT
fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

in other words you don't have a clue.

dave

George wrote:
A way of saying "why are you asking? Charge what you would if you had to
do it again tomorrow."

Prevailing wage, anyone?

"xrongor" wrote in message
news:z5u3c.530427$na.1280099@attbi_s04...

huh?

whats a 'buck-three-ninety-eight'? is that iraq currency or something?

randy

"Bob S." wrote in message
. ..

buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
.com...

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys

charge

for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT

fee

(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

Actually, having used the nonsense expression "buck three eighty" for years,
I know it's a nonsense response to a nonsense question. It's nonsense for
anyone to say what a job's worth other than the one what done it.

Now do you get it?

That said, take a look at the remaining quote. That's my answer to those
kinds of jobs, if you care.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
in other words you don't have a clue.

dave

George wrote:
Charge what you would if you had to
do it again tomorrow."

haven't seen a pfennig since I left Wiesbaden. I presume that's what
you meant? Deutsche Marks and all that jazz.

dave

Bob S. wrote:

buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

Bitburg........;-)

Bob S.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
haven't seen a pfennig since I left Wiesbaden. I presume that's what
you meant? Deutsche Marks and all that jazz.

dave

"Bob S." wrote in news:uZE3c.19167$KB.14437
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

Bitburg........;-)

Spangdahlem.

Mace B.....

Bob S.


"Joe Willmann" wrote in message
.77...
"Bob S." wrote in news:uZE3c.19167$KB.14437
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

Bitburg........;-)

Spangdahlem.

"Joe Willmann" wrote in message
"Bob S."wrote

Bitburg........;-)

Spangdahlem.

Hohenfels/Darshofen

haven't seen a pfennig since I left Wiesbaden. I presume that's what
you meant? Deutsche Marks and all that jazz.

dave

Bob S. wrote:

buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

I'd probably charge a minimum plus a per foot charge. Something like $75
plus two beer per foot.

I wouldna taken the job.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

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"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

that's because you can't lay a finish on with a remedial arm saw, Rumpty!

dave

Rumpty wrote:

I wouldna taken the job.

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Rumpty

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"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

No, it's because you can't make a PROFIT finishing 63' of moulding including
90 minutes delivery. Simple.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

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"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
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that's because you can't lay a finish on with a remedial arm saw, Rumpty!

dave

Rumpty wrote:

I wouldna taken the job.

--

Rumpty

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"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

not necessarily...

dave

Rumpty wrote:

No, it's because you can't make a PROFIT finishing 63' of moulding including
90 minutes delivery. Simple.

--

Rumpty

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"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...

that's because you can't lay a finish on with a remedial arm saw, Rumpty!

dave

Rumpty wrote:


I wouldna taken the job.

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"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
.com...


On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

not necessarily...

It's a 40 minute job without the drive time. That's 33.30 for the job. I
rather take the same time and drive down to the Exxon station for a hot dog
and a Dr. Pepper.

FWIW, that same time to finish the moulding I finish a $600 coffee table.
Mustard, onion and relish?

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"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
not necessarily...

dave

Rumpty wrote:

No, it's because you can't make a PROFIT finishing 63' of moulding
including
90 minutes delivery. Simple.

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"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...

that's because you can't lay a finish on with a remedial arm saw,
Rumpty!

dave

Rumpty wrote:


I wouldna taken the job.

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Rumpty

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"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
.com...


On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys
charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT
fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

Hey Dave,

One of the best ways to calculate hourly rate, is based on your costs.
Doesn't matter where you live.

Take into account how many ft your shop is, and what it would cost you to
rent or pay a mortgage for that shop (if you aren't already).

Calculate monthly hydro, taxes, maintainance, consumables and equipment
replacement cost. All this sounds like work but, business is business. If
you were paying $1000/m to rent your shop, $1000/m to rent/lease/loan for
tools, $1000/m for hydro/tax/consumables and had to take home $5000/m to
keep the wife supplied with bon bons, you'd need to be at $50/h ($8k / 160
hours per month )

In my shop, it doesn't matter what the task is, designing, mock-up, stock
prep, finishing or delivery etc....I still charge my hourly rate.

Cheers,

aw

"A Dubya" wrote in message
Calculate monthly hydro, taxes, maintainance, consumables and equipment
replacement cost. All this sounds like work but, business is business.
If
you were paying $1000/m to rent your shop, $1000/m to rent/lease/loan for
tools, $1000/m for hydro/tax/consumables and had to take home $5000/m to
keep the wife supplied with bon bons, you'd need to be at $50/h ($8k /
160
hours per month )

Far easier to charge $8000 for the first job of the month and then you are
covered


In my shop, it doesn't matter what the task is, designing, mock-up, stock
prep, finishing or delivery etc....I still charge my hourly rate.

Some shops charge different rates for different skill levels, but in a one
man shop, it makes no difference. Others play games. No charge for
delivery, but you are paying the "free" delivery charges in the product
cost.

Most people think you are charging them an astronomical rate. They earn
maybe $15/hour and figure the rest of the world should too. They do not
realize they are earning far more than that when you include benefits,
vacation time, SS tax, etc. Right now my company paid health care is over $4
an hour. Figure in the paid holidays and vacation, etc.
Ed

Far easier to charge $8000 for the first job of the month and then you are
covered

lmao....I wish

Some shops charge different rates for different skill levels, but in a one
man shop, it makes no difference. Others play games. No charge for
delivery, but you are paying the "free" delivery charges in the product
cost.

Most people think you are charging them an astronomical rate. They earn
maybe $15/hour and figure the rest of the world should too. They do not
realize they are earning far more than that when you include benefits,
vacation time, SS tax, etc. Right now my company paid health care is over
$4
an hour. Figure in the paid holidays and vacation, etc.
Ed



The people that question hourly shop rates, are people that don't know your
work, and are easier to deal with if there are a couple of finished pieces
in the shop, and you remind them what the local plumber or electrician is
charging per hour.

I keep the local IKEA phone number handy, anyone trying to get me to compete
with a price, I give them the IKEA phone #, and tell them "call this guy,
he's competitive".

Cheers,

aw

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:08:06 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"A Dubya" wrote in message
Calculate monthly hydro, taxes, maintainance, consumables and equipment
replacement cost. All this sounds like work but, business is business.
If
you were paying $1000/m to rent your shop, $1000/m to rent/lease/loan for
tools, $1000/m for hydro/tax/consumables and had to take home $5000/m to
keep the wife supplied with bon bons, you'd need to be at $50/h ($8k /
160
hours per month )

Far easier to charge $8000 for the first job of the month and then you are
covered



say once you get that first job done, can you come over and help me
out with a few things?

No offence, but sounds to me like the customer picked the wrong guy, from
what you wrote there wasn't any woodwork involved, sounds more like a job
for a painter/decorator, unless it's some special finish. In quality
cabinet work finishing takes a lot of time, I spoke to a small specialist
manufacturer about some chairs at a crafts show, the price was half if I
wanted to finish them myself.

Bernard R

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

"Bernard Randall" wrote in message ...
No offence, but sounds to me like the customer picked the wrong guy, from
what you wrote there wasn't any woodwork involved, sounds more like a job
for a painter/decorator, unless it's some special finish. In quality
cabinet work finishing takes a lot of time, I spoke to a small specialist
manufacturer about some chairs at a crafts show, the price was half if I
wanted to finish them myself.


Half's about what I'd go with too. To get a piece really ready to
finish and to put on a really good looking finish I generally end up
with as much time as I had in construction. A really good finish
brings a piece to life. Case work finishes easier, detailed scrolly
works finish harder than construction, good chairsmithing is equally
hard all around.

In response to BAD, I flatly refuse to finish someone else's work.
Though if times were tough, I might consider this job since I don't
think trim is really someone else's work and then I'd have to bill it
out time and material.



Bernard R

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

Tell him "I need about tree fiddy".


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

About a buck seventy five thereabouts.

Jim


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

Damn Dave would you just tell us already I'm sitting on pins here with
anticipation. By the way quite a few people myself included have given you
legitimate answers to your original question.

Jim


"James D. Kountz" jkountz@(remove this)citlink.net wrote in message
...
About a buck seventy five thereabouts.

Jim


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

Bay Area Dave wrote in message om...
I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Considering it'll probably look like ****, you should just ask them
for forgiveness for ruining their material.

Dave, you need to decide what kind of troll you're going to be. Are
you going to post meaningless **** like this and then argue with every
answer or are you going to post links to gay porn. We both know
you're doing both.

Anything to get attention, huh?

Rich

(Rich) wrote in message . com...
Bay Area Dave wrote in message om...
I'm just curious what you guys would charge for [clip]

Considering it'll probably look like ****, you should just ask them
for forgiveness for ruining their material.

Dave, you need to decide what kind of troll you're going to be. Are
you going to post meaningless **** like this and then argue with every
answer or are you going to post links to gay porn.

ROTFLMFAO.

Wait. There was gay porn? Dammit, why do I miss all the good stuff?
I personally don't give a rat's ass what Dave charged, but it is
entertaining to watch all yall play tard-ball with our favorite rube.
I live in L.A., and my shop rate is $40hr, which is damn cheap as far
as I can tell. This means I have more work than I know what to do
with, and I can pick/choose jobs (mostly friends) on my own whim. The
backlog is about three years and counting. Currently working on a
simple cherry fireplace mantel for some friends in the O.C.

O'Deen

Patrick Olguin wrote:
Wait. There was gay porn?

Kee-Rist onna crutch Paddy, you missed all that? Here's the
short version.

Some pant load posted a picture of a pant load claiming it
was our favorite pant load.

By the way, DAGS for the pictures.

UA100

why don't you just email him the pervert's pics. I'm sure PO will enjoy
them as much as you did.

dave

Unisaw A100 wrote:

Patrick Olguin wrote:

Wait. There was gay porn?


Kee-Rist onna crutch Paddy, you missed all that? Here's the
short version.

Some pant load posted a picture of a pant load claiming it
was our favorite pant load.

By the way, DAGS for the pictures.

UA100

and you are SO modest!

dave

Patrick Olguin wrote:

(Rich) wrote in message . com...

Bay Area Dave wrote in message om...

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for [clip]

Considering it'll probably look like ****, you should just ask them
for forgiveness for ruining their material.

Dave, you need to decide what kind of troll you're going to be. Are
you going to post meaningless **** like this and then argue with every
answer or are you going to post links to gay porn.


ROTFLMFAO.

Wait. There was gay porn? Dammit, why do I miss all the good stuff?
I personally don't give a rat's ass what Dave charged, but it is
entertaining to watch all yall play tard-ball with our favorite rube.
I live in L.A., and my shop rate is $40hr, which is damn cheap as far
as I can tell. This means I have more work than I know what to do
with, and I can pick/choose jobs (mostly friends) on my own whim. The
backlog is about three years and counting. Currently working on a
simple cherry fireplace mantel for some friends in the O.C.

O'Deen

Thu, Mar 11, 2004, 3:02am (EST-3) (Rich) asks:
snip are you going to post links to gay porn. snip

Aw, c'mon Rich. You know Homer isn't posting those links. You
didn't see one question, asking what went which way, now did you?

JOAT
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and the state.
- Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
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(J T) wrote in message ...
Thu, Mar 11, 2004, 3:02am (EST-3) (Rich) asks:
snip are you going to post links to gay porn. snip

Aw, c'mon Rich. You know Homer isn't posting those links. You
didn't see one question, asking what went which way, now did you?

J,

You're, or course, right. My apologies to Dave. Given Dave's corn
obssesion, the texture was way too smooth.

Fri, Mar 12, 2004, 3:20am (EST-3) (Rich) says:
You're, or course, right. My apologies to Dave. Given Dave's corn
obssesion, the texture was way too smooth.

LMAO

JOAT
That the peope have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves
and the state.
- Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...ESILIKEVOCALS/