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I just finished sanding a little knife block to hold a Chinese cleaver and
a small chef's knife. I used some red oak that was lying around the shop, gluing it all together with Titebond II. Now: I think I recall that vegetable oil is the right finish for food-contact woodwork; my questions start with this: Wouldn't a vegetable oil finish eventually get rancid? SWMBO has a hellishly sensitive sniffer, and I'm afraid that if the oil in the wood starts to get a little manky two of my favorite knives will be either banished altogether or sentenced to a life lying naked in the silverware drawer. What *is* the right finish? We have quite a few different oils in the pantry: peanut, olive, canola, corn, and can get stuff like safflower, soy, sunflower and more that don't leap to mind right now. Of course, I can also get the more traditional woodworking oil finishes. I am blessed with choices and cursed with ignorance - help! Thanks -- Jim "Value nothing but truth, compassion, and love" |
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![]() "Jim Willemin" wrote in message . 97.142... I just finished sanding a little knife block to hold a Chinese cleaver and a small chef's knife. I used some red oak that was lying around the shop, gluing it all together with Titebond II. Now: I think I recall that vegetable oil is the right finish for food-contact woodwork; my questions start with this: Wouldn't a vegetable oil finish eventually get rancid? SWMBO has a hellishly sensitive sniffer, and I'm afraid that if the oil in the wood starts to get a little manky two of my favorite knives will be either banished altogether or sentenced to a life lying naked in the silverware drawer. What *is* the right finish? We have quite a few different oils in the pantry: peanut, olive, canola, corn, and can get stuff like safflower, soy, sunflower and more that don't leap to mind right now. Of course, I can also get the more traditional woodworking oil finishes. I am blessed with choices and cursed with ignorance - help! Thanks I use walnut oil for my cherry wood kitchen countertops. It is semi-hardening with no noticeable odor. |
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![]() "Jim Willemin" wrote in message . 97.142... I just finished sanding a little knife block to hold a Chinese cleaver and a small chef's knife. I used some red oak that was lying around the shop, gluing it all together with Titebond II. Now: I think I recall that vegetable oil is the right finish for food-contact woodwork; my questions start with this: Wouldn't a vegetable oil finish eventually get rancid? SWMBO has a hellishly sensitive sniffer, and I'm afraid that if the oil in the wood starts to get a little manky two of my favorite knives will be either banished altogether or sentenced to a life lying naked in the silverware drawer. What *is* the right finish? We have quite a few different oils in the pantry: peanut, olive, canola, corn, and can get stuff like safflower, soy, sunflower and more that don't leap to mind right now. Of course, I can also get the more traditional woodworking oil finishes. I am blessed with choices and cursed with ignorance - help! Food contact? Are you going to tenderize the meat by beating it with the wood block? Any normal wood finish oil is just fine. Danish oil, varnish oil, mineral oil, latex paint will do too. Avoid the cooking oils. |
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Jim Willemin wrote:
I just finished sanding a little knife block to hold a Chinese cleaver and a small chef's knife. I used some red oak that was lying around the shop, gluing it all together with Titebond II. 30 years ago, I used boiled linseed oil on a couple of knife racks. Poured the BLO in a pot, heated it up on the stove, then dunked the racks into it. As this is being written, no fatalities to report. Lew |
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I always wonder when this question comes up, which seems to be about
once a month. I make treen ware for fun, and always use EVOO to finish the spatulas, spoons, cutting boards, stirrers, tasters and beaters I make. I use just about any wood besides red oak, or some of the more tubular looking pieces of white. Yet... in the last two decades I have never had any of the EVOO oiled kitchen ware go rancid, stink, rot, or pass disease to anyone that uses them. Cooking is my second hobby, and I use all of my pieces frequently, as do many I have given them to as gifts. I stir fry in vegetable oil, pan fry chicken breasts in vegetable oils, and a mulititude of other tasks that expose my treenware to natural, non or slow curing oils. And while the spatulas and turners absorb vegetable oils and animal fats, no disease or pestilence to report. I cut bloody meats (15 - 18 lb pork loins into chops, raw chickens, and raw fish) on my cutting boards frequently with no problems. I beat/stir concotions with raw eggs and vegetable oils in them with my wooden beaters and haven't had foul odor one. This nonsense has been going on for years, and EVERYTHING has been treated with plain EVOO. I know that many of us have their own favorite finishes, but I think that those that are afraid of vegetable finshes should use stainless utensils. So do any of the people here realize that for many years it was animal fats that were used to cure these utensils? Sometimes nothing at all? I have a great maple cutting board that I have had for years that I have never put a drop of finish on, and it is great. It has picked up some oils somewhere though as you can see the difference in the appearance of the wood on the front and back of the board. So that means it has picked up animal fats and oils from food prep. Yet... no smell. A GOOD FIELD TEST: Take a piece of scrap from your project and treat it with vegetable oil of some sort. Wipe off the excess oil. See how long it takes to "go rancid". Your grandkid's grandkids will be shaving by the that happens. I am going with Mr. Pawlowski on this one.... just put something on it! You'll be fine! Robert |
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Robert,
Rachel Raye loves you. TomNie |
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![]() "Tom Nie" wrote in message ... Robert, Rachel Raye loves you. TomNie This a sure tell as to what we are watching in our spare time. |
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![]() Tom Nie wrote: Robert, Rachel Raye loves you. TomNie And Tom, I love her right back. I have only seen a couple of shows (I have no cable or satellite) but she is as cute as can be, and I have seen her eat a Chicago dawg and drink beer like an old pro. Me like. Robert |
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:14:03 -0500, Jim Willemin
wrote: I just finished sanding a little knife block to hold a Chinese cleaver and a small chef's knife. I used some red oak that was lying around the shop, gluing it all together with Titebond II. Now: I think I recall that vegetable oil is the right finish for food-contact woodwork; my questions start with this: Wouldn't a vegetable oil finish eventually get rancid? SWMBO has a hellishly sensitive sniffer, and I'm afraid that if the oil in the wood starts to get a little manky two of my favorite knives will be either banished altogether or sentenced to a life lying naked in the silverware drawer. What *is* the right finish? We have quite a few different oils in the pantry: peanut, olive, canola, corn, and can get stuff like safflower, soy, sunflower and more that don't leap to mind right now. Of course, I can also get the more traditional woodworking oil finishes. I am blessed with choices and cursed with ignorance - help! I don't think there is any "right" finish. However, for kitchen woodwork, that does not get routinely immersed in water, I use shellac, then several rubbings of soyabean oil. The old saw applies: Once a day for a week. Once a week for a month. Once a month for a year. Once a year forever. At least I think it's something like that, I more or less follow it, and it seems to work very well. Barry Lennox |
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