I would like to put a Murphy bed in my room so I have been looking at
Murphy bed hardware kits and from what I can tell looking around the net
this one seems to be the best....

http://www.wallbed.com/

I think it is the same thing that Rockler sells. Can anyone tell me if
it is really any good and if it will stand up to every day use? I plan
on using it with an extra long twin bed. Folding up vertically not
horizontally. Any comments suggestions or recommendations?


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Chris W wrote:
I would like to put a Murphy bed in my room so I have been looking at
Murphy bed hardware kits and from what I can tell looking around the net
this one seems to be the best....

http://www.wallbed.com/

I think it is the same thing that Rockler sells. Can anyone tell me if
it is really any good and if it will stand up to every day use? I plan
on using it with an extra long twin bed. Folding up vertically not
horizontally. Any comments suggestions or recommendations?


Someone just asked about this in another thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.w...d0ae8412b52271

Hello Chris W,
I took your tip in the "CAD Learning" thread and signed up for the free
Alibre Express program. Maybe you could draw one up and post the file here
if it's not to big. I think some folks get a bit PO'd at big posts in this
ng.

I have been looking into a wall bed project too. Kinda looks like the
Create-A-Bed kit is a good way to go.

Thanks for the tip,
Pat Jr.

Pat Jr wrote:
Hello Chris W,
I took your tip in the "CAD Learning" thread and signed up for the free
Alibre Express program. Maybe you could draw one up and post the file here
if it's not to big. I think some folks get a bit PO'd at big posts in this
ng.

I have been looking into a wall bed project too. Kinda looks like the
Create-A-Bed kit is a good way to go.

Thanks for the tip,
Pat Jr.


Not sure when I will be buying the kit, but as soon as I do I would be
happy to draw it up in 3D and post the model on a web site. If someone
has plans they can send me I will draw it up from them. One nice thing
about Alibre is it has a 3rd party tool (model press publisher and
viewer) that lets you share the 3D model in a view / measure only mode.
The viewer part is a free download. I wish this kind of thing were
more standard though. I think there should be a world wide standard for
sharing 3D models that was a default plug in for any web browser. But
this thing is better than nothing. It runs great as a standalone
program and version of the model it creates is really small so no huge
downloads and it runs OK inside IE but not worth it to me. I just run
it off line. No plug in for fire fox last I checked and it only runs on
windows.

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In article G1pkg.55498$9c6.17102@dukeread11, Chris W
wrote:

I would like to put a Murphy bed in my room so I have been looking at
Murphy bed hardware kits and from what I can tell looking around the net
this one seems to be the best....

http://www.wallbed.com/

I think it is the same thing that Rockler sells. Can anyone tell me if
it is really any good and if it will stand up to every day use? I plan
on using it with an extra long twin bed. Folding up vertically not
horizontally. Any comments suggestions or recommendations?

Several years ago I built a Murphy bed using the wallbed kit (I think
-- I seem to recall a place in Kentucky or Tenn where I got it, but
cannot remember for sure -- I seem to recall a price about half the
current price)

The kit has two pistons and two sets of sturdy metal plates with the
hinge and piston mounts on them. Very sturdy.

Rather than build the bed as per 'normal' plans since the room had an
alcove in which the bed would just fit and could be covered, I simply
made the bed. For the base, I used the metal rails from the hollywood
frame I was replacing and screwed the support that normally goes under
the mattress to it. Only a small amount of wood was used -- 12 in by
12 in plates to connect the metal plates in the kit to the metal rails
and a headboard (normal height) with 12 inch sides coming forward to
support the other metal plate and the mount for the air piston.

Althought the plans seem to give some distances for the distance from
the hinge to the piston mount, it may take a bit of playing with as it
obviously depends on the weight of the mattress and support. I fine
tuned it with a couple of two pound weights at the end of the bed.

A good welder and I say good as the kit was made of 1/4 in steel, could
make the kit for much less. I don't know the strength of the pistons
-- I attempted to compute what would be reqauired and came up with
several hundred pounds. I attempted to measure the piston, but it
maxed out the bathroom scales I had at 300 pounds.

The pistons have facinated me for a couple of other projects and have
yet to find a good source for them. NAPA does carry some, but no
specs.

My murphy bed is used only on an intermitant basis. I am most happy
with it.