I for the first time used Sketchup with a purpose and in about 2 hours
managed to draw this desk to scale. I previously drew this desk on AutoCAD
LT and did an Isometric drawing for my customer. I just finished this
drawing and printed it in Ultra High Resolution. The lines come out great,
when printed.

This program has lots of potential as most all of you have pointed out. I
have watched 2 tutorials on the basics and feel that it goes pretty quickly
if you already have some CAD experience.

Attached are the a printed PDF from Sketchup, 2 pictures of the project as
it stands at the moment, and a picture of the original CAD drawing. The
desk is being held together by Domino's and no glue or screws. I wanted to
be sure that it all correctly fit together correctly applying the glue.

Sorry about the big file.
You will have to open the attached PDF file to see the Sketchup version in
pretty print good resolution.



"Leon" wrote in message
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I for the first time used Sketchup with a purpose and in about 2 hours
managed to draw this desk to scale. I previously drew this desk on AutoCAD
LT and did an Isometric drawing for my customer. I just finished this
drawing and printed it in Ultra High Resolution. The lines come out
great, when printed.

This program has lots of potential as most all of you have pointed out. I
have watched 2 tutorials on the basics and feel that it goes pretty
quickly if you already have some CAD experience.

Attached are the a printed PDF from Sketchup, 2 pictures of the project as
it stands at the moment, and a picture of the original CAD drawing. The
desk is being held together by Domino's and no glue or screws. I wanted
to be sure that it all correctly fit together correctly applying the glue.

"Leon" wrote in message
I for the first time used Sketchup with a purpose and in about 2 hours
managed to draw this desk to scale. I previously drew this desk on
AutoCAD
LT and did an Isometric drawing for my customer. I just finished this
drawing and printed it in Ultra High Resolution. The lines come out
great,
when printed.

Go ahead, post the skp file .... we won't steal it, I promise!

This program has lots of potential as most all of you have pointed out. I
have watched 2 tutorials on the basics and feel that it goes pretty
quickly
if you already have some CAD experience.

Attached are the a printed PDF from Sketchup, 2 pictures of the project as
it stands at the moment, and a picture of the original CAD drawing. The
desk is being held together by Domino's and no glue or screws. I wanted
to
be sure that it all correctly fit together correctly applying the glue.

Good one ... careful now, Sketchup is habit forming. Lately, instead of
watching TV with SWMBO (enjoy the company, but really don't care for TV)
I've taken to sitting with my laptop while she watches TV, and I work on my
Sketchup chops.

AAMOF, last night started a 3D drawing of the mission sideboard I did a year
or so ago. I find an even better way to learn is to work on something that
you've built, and are therefore familiar with the components and how you did
it.

I really do like the desk ... might have to look closely at that walnut log
we've been offered.

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"Swingman" wrote in message
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Go ahead, post the skp file .... we won't steal it, I promise!

Take It!, I'm making enough money off of it. LOL




This program has lots of potential as most all of you have pointed out.
I
have watched 2 tutorials on the basics and feel that it goes pretty
quickly
if you already have some CAD experience.

Attached are the a printed PDF from Sketchup, 2 pictures of the project
as
it stands at the moment, and a picture of the original CAD drawing. The
desk is being held together by Domino's and no glue or screws. I wanted
to
be sure that it all correctly fit together correctly applying the glue.

Good one ... careful now, Sketchup is habit forming. Lately, instead of
watching TV with SWMBO (enjoy the company, but really don't care for TV)
I've taken to sitting with my laptop while she watches TV, and I work on
my
Sketchup chops.

I am having a pit of a time so far with the copy command. I cannot seem to
copy and attach exactly where I want to place the copy.
The Push and Pull works quickly, most all were done with this tool.


AAMOF, last night started a 3D drawing of the mission sideboard I did a
year
or so ago. I find an even better way to learn is to work on something that
you've built, and are therefore familiar with the components and how you
did
it.

Yeah, it seems to help greatly to be very familiar withe what you are
drawing.


I really do like the desk ... might have to look closely at that walnut
log
we've been offered.

Yeah, you'll need to take a look at it when y'all go up in July. Perhaps
when we come up in August we can transport the lumber to the lake house and
sticker it, if the price is right and you have the room.

"Leon" wrote in message
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"Swingman" wrote in message
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Go ahead, post the skp file .... we won't steal it, I promise!

Take It!, I'm making enough money off of it. LOL

See Mission Sideboard" casework" in another post.

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"Leon" wrote

I am having a pit of a time so far with the copy command. I cannot seem
to copy and attach exactly where I want to place the copy.

Try grabbing an "end point" with the copy tool and carry it to the
corresponding/ matching end point on the piece you want to attach it to.

Works for me ... most of the time. Thank gawd for "escape" and CtrlZ!

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"Swingman" wrote in message
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"Leon" wrote

I am having a pit of a time so far with the copy command. I cannot seem
to copy and attach exactly where I want to place the copy.

Try grabbing an "end point" with the copy tool and carry it to the
corresponding/ matching end point on the piece you want to attach it to.

Works for me ... most of the time. Thank gawd for "escape" and CtrlZ!


Weeeee'l hav'ta scuss notes Saturday.

"Leon" wrote in message
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I for the first time used Sketchup with a purpose and in about 2 hours
managed to draw this desk to scale. I previously drew this desk on
AutoCAD
LT and did an Isometric drawing for my customer.

Which is the biggest void I have been able to fill with Sketchup,
showing the client a likeness of the finished product. I was also able to
produce drawings that satisfied the City of Houston for permitting.
Below is one of the Skethcup drawings I was able to produce for the
clients and below that a photo of the finished product.

Dave in Houston

Very cool. Was that only an outside elevation or did you also draw the
interior rooms/floor plan? AND or was that a redo project or from the
ground up?






"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
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"Leon" wrote in message
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I for the first time used Sketchup with a purpose and in about 2 hours
managed to draw this desk to scale. I previously drew this desk on
AutoCAD
LT and did an Isometric drawing for my customer.

Which is the biggest void I have been able to fill with Sketchup,
showing the client a likeness of the finished product. I was also able to
produce drawings that satisfied the City of Houston for permitting.
Below is one of the Skethcup drawings I was able to produce for the
clients and below that a photo of the finished product.

Dave in Houston

"Leon" wrote in message
...
Very cool. Was that only an outside elevation or did you also draw the
interior rooms/floor plan? AND or was that a redo project or from the
ground up?

This was a ground-up project complete with grade beams on bell-bottom
piers supporting six 8X8 TYP posts in 1/4 steel brackets below various
trusses, all engineer approved, of course. And all built out over the
existing driveway and bolted to the existing structure which, BTW, was built
in 1906.
In case you missed it you can sort of get a feel for how it went up:
http://www.pbase.com/speedracer/rutland_project

I have dabbled in interior renderings on other projects (some never
built) but on this one gave the client the "floor plan" mostly as you see it
in the subsequent drawings along with the Sketchup elevations. They had a
much harder time "seeing" the exterior big picture. As with a lot of our
clients (yours, too, I suspect), finishes, colors, etc are an on-going
process that often are not decided till much of the grunt work is completed.
As you can see from the photos, the clients have - hmmm - eclectic tastes
vis-a-vis colors, tile patterns, etc. If you decide to check out he house
on a drive-by, wear your shades; the yellow will burn your retinas. KODAK
could use it for marketing purposes. We've also done interior painting,
wood floor replacement, built the patio cover in the back, and more recently
replaced the patio doors (in the back) for these same clients.

Dave in Houston

"Dave in Houston" wrote

"Leon" wrote in message

I for the first time used Sketchup with a purpose and in about 2 hours
managed to draw this desk to scale. I previously drew this desk on
AutoCAD
LT and did an Isometric drawing for my customer.

Which is the biggest void I have been able to fill with Sketchup,
showing the client a likeness of the finished product. I was also able to
produce drawings that satisfied the City of Houston for permitting.
Below is one of the Skethcup drawings I was able to produce for the
clients and below that a photo of the finished product.

Damn! ... who needs an architect with a Sketchup pro like you around!! G

Well done ... can't wait to gain some more proficiency with the program. It
is almost as fun as woodworking. Hell, all you have to do is go out to the
shop and do in wood, what you did in bits/bytes.


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Swingman wrote:
"Dave in Houston" wrote
"Leon" wrote in message

I for the first time used Sketchup with a purpose and in about 2 hours
managed to draw this desk to scale. I previously drew this desk on
AutoCAD
LT and did an Isometric drawing for my customer.
Which is the biggest void I have been able to fill with Sketchup,
showing the client a likeness of the finished product. I was also able to
produce drawings that satisfied the City of Houston for permitting.
Below is one of the Skethcup drawings I was able to produce for the
clients and below that a photo of the finished product.

Damn! ... who needs an architect with a Sketchup pro like you around!! G

Well done ... can't wait to gain some more proficiency with the program. It
is almost as fun as woodworking. Hell, all you have to do is go out to the
shop and do in wood, what you did in bits/bytes.


I have tried to use sketch up but it seems that I spend all of my time
making the dimensioned wood that I use in the project. Is there a
library of standard dimensioned lumber, 1X2, 1X6, etc. that can be
accessed for sketch up?

"Keith nuttle" wrote in message
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I have tried to use sketch up but it seems that I spend all of my time
making the dimensioned wood that I use in the project. Is there a
library of standard dimensioned lumber, 1X2, 1X6, etc. that can be
accessed for sketch up?

Nope.

"Keith nuttle" wrote in message
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Swingman wrote:
do in wood, what you did in bits/bytes.


I have tried to use sketch up but it seems that I spend all of my time
making the dimensioned wood that I use in the project. Is there a
library of standard dimensioned lumber, 1X2, 1X6, etc. that can be
accessed for sketch up?

In the Components and Construction section there are some of these items. I
found pre drawn Stud Walls, Trusses etc.

"Leon" wrote in
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"Keith nuttle" wrote in
message ...
Swingman wrote:
do in wood, what you did in bits/bytes.


I have tried to use sketch up but it seems that I spend
all of my time making the dimensioned wood that I use in
the project. Is there a library of standard dimensioned
lumber, 1X2, 1X6, etc. that can be accessed for sketch up?

In the Components and Construction section there are some
of these items. I found pre drawn Stud Walls, Trusses etc.


You can draw a 2x4 in about 30 seconds and then make an array
with the necessary # of them to make a wall. The entire
process should take less than 2 minutes after you get the hang
of it. (I stopped and did it just for grins, took 2:20 to draw
a 10' wall with the studs and a header.)

I too had used AutoCad and was trying to make things much
harder than they really are. While CAD knowledge will help in
the learning process, forget what you know about your current
CAD program and find some tutorials.

Google has some great videos that are time well spent. Another
great tutorial, and what got me started, is at
http://www.srww.com/blog. Highly recommended... Thanks
Chiefwoodworker!

Larry

"Keith nuttle" wrote

I have tried to use sketch up but it seems that I spend all of my time
making the dimensioned wood that I use in the project. Is there a
library of standard dimensioned lumber, 1X2, 1X6, etc. that can be
accessed for sketch up?

Here ya go ... found this surfing this morning:

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...9bb6743f2445a7

(skp file attached)


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"Swingman" wrote in message
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Damn! ... who needs an architect with a Sketchup pro like you around!! G

Well done ... can't wait to gain some more proficiency with the program.
It
is almost as fun as woodworking. Hell, all you have to do is go out to the
shop and do in wood, what you did in bits/bytes.

Thank yew, thank yew vury much.

Here's a couple of more examples that make the software very useful in our
line of work.
These were hashing out early layout issues, mainly the roofline (what a
bitch). Nobody was more shocked than me when it framed up like I designed
it (gulp!).

Dave in Houston

"Dave in Houston" wrote in message

"Swingman" wrote in message

Damn! ... who needs an architect with a Sketchup pro like you around!!
G

Well done ... can't wait to gain some more proficiency with the program.
It
is almost as fun as woodworking. Hell, all you have to do is go out to
the
shop and do in wood, what you did in bits/bytes.

Thank yew, thank yew vury much.

Elvis lives!

Here's a couple of more examples that make the software very useful in our
line of work.
These were hashing out early layout issues, mainly the roofline (what a
bitch). Nobody was more shocked than me when it framed up like I designed
it (gulp!).

Damn, light bulb just exploded twixt mine ears. If everything works as
planned, and the idiots don't ruin the world as we know it, SWMBO and I are
contemplating retiring next year to the lake house in AR.

She wants to add on to it (shop and bigger bedroom) ... seeing your Sketchup
work makes me think I may be able to explore some options in that regard
with her.

I guess I should quit playing with the woodworking and get busy, eh!

Gee ... thanks a lot!



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Swingman wrote:
"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
"Swingman" wrote in message
Damn! ... who needs an architect with a Sketchup pro like you around!!
G
Well done ... can't wait to gain some more proficiency with the program.
It
is almost as fun as woodworking. Hell, all you have to do is go out to
the
shop and do in wood, what you did in bits/bytes.
Thank yew, thank yew vury much.

Elvis lives!

Here's a couple of more examples that make the software very useful in our
line of work.
These were hashing out early layout issues, mainly the roofline (what a
bitch). Nobody was more shocked than me when it framed up like I designed
it (gulp!).

Damn, light bulb just exploded twixt mine ears. If everything works as
planned, and the idiots don't ruin the world as we know it, SWMBO and I are
contemplating retiring next year to the lake house in AR.

She wants to add on to it (shop and bigger bedroom) ... seeing your Sketchup
work makes me think I may be able to explore some options in that regard
with her.

I guess I should quit playing with the woodworking and get busy, eh!

Gee ... thanks a lot!



Is your wife a good woodworker? I wish my wife would want to add on a
shop, and then let me be in it.

--
Keith Nuttle
3110 Marquette Court
Indianapolis, IN 46268
317-802-0699

Swingman wrote:

Well done ... can't wait to gain some more proficiency with the program. It
is almost as fun as woodworking. Hell, all you have to do is go out to the
shop and do in wood, what you did in bits/bytes.

This is how I got out of woodworking and into computing. Even though I
was VERY proficient at drawing stuff by hand, something all wood workers
must be good at, in the early days of home computing, my wife brought
home a $4000 IBM PC XT with 2 360k floppies and a 10 MEG hard drive.
State of the art computer provided by her credit union. I of course
started fooling with it, got hooked, and eventually got my own, a 486.
THEN I decided to get my hands on a CAD program, got Design CAD, and
what used to take me 1/2 hour to sketch up by hand, was now taking me
WEEKS to get perfect using the computer, and I also discovered that
computing, particularly programing, was just like woodworking, without
the wood, with total correctable mistakes, and a nice product that did
stuff when you were done. My wood shop became idle, and has pretty much
been so for about 15 years.

I'm trying to get back into the wood shop, and away from the computer a
bit more now, and have tried SU, in fact tried it 3 times now. First
time tried it w/o reading any instructions... not so good. Second time,
read enough instructions/tutorials to figure out this is a hell of a
program. 3rd time spent a few days on some good tutorials, and wow I
said, this thing is REALLY slick and worth learning.

Then I got off track, and forget a lot of what I learned already, but in
the fall I think I'll put a final push on to get the thing to always do
what I want (SU is easy and powerful, but it can get away from you
pretty easy at first, sort of like a wild horse with a mind of it's own.)

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Swingman wrote:
Snip


I'm trying to get back into the wood shop, and away from the computer a
bit more now, and have tried SU, in fact tried it 3 times now. First time
tried it w/o reading any instructions... not so good. Second time, read
enough instructions/tutorials to figure out this is a hell of a program.
3rd time spent a few days on some good tutorials, and wow I said, this
thing is REALLY slick and worth learning.

I too literally had to try it 3 times before I got it to work for me. I
have been using CAD programs since 1986 it helps to have CAD experience but
I think I was trying to make it too hard to learn.

"Dave in Houston" wrote

clients and below that a photo of the finished product.

Heights/Garden Oaks?

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"Dave in Houston" wrote

clients and below that a photo of the finished product.

Heights/Garden Oaks?

Heights; 1500 block of Rutland, 2 blocks west of Yale. Super clients, too.
Here's a load more pictures if you have an interest.
http://www.pbase.com/speedracer/rutland_project Click on a thumbnail to see
the full-sized image, then click on next in the upper or lower right to go
to the next one. Or use your browser BACK key to go back to the thumbnails
and pick another candidate.

Dave in Houston

"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
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"Swingman" wrote in message
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"Dave in Houston" wrote

clients and below that a photo of the finished product.

Heights/Garden Oaks?

Heights; 1500 block of Rutland, 2 blocks west of Yale. Super clients,
too.

Hard to fool an old Heights resident. Just had that feel to it.

Lived off 14 1/2 & Studewood at one time, and owned a house/recording studio
in the 2000 block of Columbia back in my wild, single musician days. Lots of
good memories ... seeing every musician in town at Andy's on 11th, at 3 AM,
after a gig ...or playing at the old Rising Star on Euclid, or at
Fitzgerald's, back in my 'road band' days, before he got killed on his
motorcycle and Sarah took over and made a headbanger place out of it, or
Rockefeller's, when it was a happening music venue ,with Primo's next door,
which had the best fajita's in Texas, still not beat to this day.

.... and it's still a pretty good mix of third world and yuppieville.

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Hard to fool an old Heights resident. Just had that feel to it.

Lived off 14 1/2 & Studewood at one time, and owned a house/recording
studio in the 2000 block of Columbia back in my wild, single musician
days. Lots of good memories ... seeing every musician in town at Andy's on
11th, at 3 AM, after a gig ...or playing at the old Rising Star on Euclid,
or at Fitzgerald's, back in my 'road band' days, before he got killed on
his motorcycle and Sarah took over and made a headbanger place out of it,
or Rockefeller's, when it was a happening music venue ,with Primo's next
door, which had the best fajita's in Texas, still not beat to this day.

... and it's still a pretty good mix of third world and yuppieville.

My father grew up on Peddie till he and my grandparents moved to Le
Green (2nd house off Studewood) spent a week every summer with my cousin at
Grandmother's and Granddaddy's. The house is still there at 1137.
Granddaddy was a carpenter in his youth (early 1900s) and when I came to
know him in the mid-50s would turn me and cousin Billy loose in his
[one-car] heights garage (no car; never drove not once in his 90 years) and
full access to his saws and hammers and nails and bits and pieces of wood.
We didn't know **** but damned if I don't believe it planted the seed, if
you get my meaning. Can still recall Studewood Food Market and running
around in cutoffs and barefoot on the esplanade down at Le Green and
Norhill.

Dave in Houston

"Swingman" wrote in message
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Lived off 14 1/2 & Studewood at one time, and owned a house/recording
studio in the 2000 block of Columbia back in my wild, single musician
days. Lots of good memories ... seeing every musician in town at Andy's on
11th, at 3 AM, after a gig ...or playing at the old Rising Star on Euclid,
or at Fitzgerald's, back in my 'road band' days, before he got killed on
his motorcycle and Sarah took over and made a headbanger place out of it,
or Rockefeller's, when it was a happening music venue ,with Primo's next
door, which had the best fajita's in Texas, still not beat to this day.

... and it's still a pretty good mix of third world and yuppieville.

That would be around 20th. a few blocks east of Heights Blvd.
Saw Kinky Freidman play Fitzgeralds back in the late 70s (I think; I'm
missing a year somewhere back around that time), ) Always thought of it
as a firetrap what with all the boozin' and druggies that frequented such a
large wooden structure. I remember noting the exits at the Kinkster gig
(like I could have found my ass with a flashlight and a map that night!).
As for fajitas, I'll take Tia Maria's on Dacoma right across the street
from Delmar Stadium. Killer margaritas even though I most always do Negro
Modela with my Mescan.

Dave

Dave in Houston wrote:
Which is the biggest void I have been able to fill with Sketchup,
showing the client a likeness of the finished product. I was also able to
produce drawings that satisfied the City of Houston for permitting.
Below is one of the Skethcup drawings I was able to produce for the
clients and below that a photo of the finished product.

Looks like they ordered a Lemon house and were delivered a Lymon house!

DOMINO have any part in putting this thing together?

"charlieb" wrote in message
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DOMINO have any part in putting this thing together?


56 Mortises and 28 Domino's so far, just in the let to apron joints. I used
several for the top for alignment purposes.