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An artist and his wounds
Some, ok two, of you might recall my newly discovered signature objects
in which I leave about 2 to 3 in. of the branches sticking out of Norfolk Is. pine spindles. I was really proud of my unique approach to fine art til someone who shall be nameless, mentioned that the up-turned branches add a sort of phallic look that I wasn't striving for. We artists are horribly driven and we expect to suffer for the sake of our art, however I'm seriously considering resigning to become a simple woodturner again. I can't see the d... branches even at low rpm and I've had so many scrapes and bruises lately that neosporin and band-aids have become a significant expense of my atelier work. I had hoped to recoup from sales to collectors, trophy wives, and other well pursed types, but so far, it hasn't happened. Anyway, Lorraine doesn't think much of my journey into art, so I have come to sneaking into the house to wash out my wounds with LDD, dress them and hide the blood. There's a lot of it since I take aspirin. My injuries are minor so far. I don't know what's worse for someone who already knows to be careful; "you should be more careful, Dear" (as if I don't start out to be careful) or the somewhat sharper "I wish you would stop making those things before you really hurt yourself, Arch". Heretofore, cheating on my wife involved sneaking two eggs for breakfast when she was away, but lately it's clandestine meetings with BFI and bandages. Meanwhile I type this with damaged fingers to inqui Do any of you sneak band-aids and hide your wounds as if you didn't know to be careful when turning wood. Of course we are all careful, but be sure to.... Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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"Arch" wrote: (clip) I can't see the d... branches even at low rpm (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arch, it would be a shame for the artistic community to lose your contribution in this area. I suggest you go shopping for a strobe light--not the kind that goes on a camera; I mean the kind that flickers in synchronism with a rotating thing. I'm serious. I have an old strobe I could probably get working, and I would be happy to try it in this application if it would be any help. If you adjusted the strobe to a nearly synchronous speed, the object would appear to rotate slowly, so you could avoid all the dangerous ends. |
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Leo, Thanks. How about gluing some short dowels in a spindle as an
experiment and letting us know if the strobe is another one of your good ideas. Also some suggestions for set ups and uses for strobes would interest many of us. If it works out and provokes discussion, please start a new and more circumspect thread without embarrassing phallic references or dotted expletives being repeated in every post. ... and be very careful of your knuckles.  Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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"Arch" wrote in message ... Leo, Thanks. How about gluing some short dowels in a spindle as an experiment and letting us know if the strobe is another one of your good ideas. Also some suggestions for set ups and uses for strobes would interest many of us. If it works out and provokes discussion, please start a new and more circumspect thread without embarrassing phallic references or dotted expletives being repeated in every post. ... and be very careful of your knuckles. ====================== Arch and Leo, You could do a strobe with an automotive timing light. Using a set of old fashioned ignition points (remember those?), a cam lobe attached to the spindle, a battery and an ignition coil, you'd be all set. Of course, you'd have to turn the lights down, so that may increase your band aid bill !! :-) Ken Moon Webberville, TX |
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"Ken Moon" wrote in message k.net... Arch and Leo, You could do a strobe with an automotive timing light. Using a set of old fashioned ignition points (remember those?), a cam lobe attached to the spindle, a battery and an ignition coil, you'd be all set. Of course, you'd have to turn the lights down, so that may increase your band aid bill !! :-) Of course, that would be synchronous, and of little help. You could get the same effect by shining a flood through a hole in a piece of plywood spinning on the outboard. Now one of those sound-to music things might work as long as the load has some asymmetry.... |
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Hey Arch, since the limbs on NIP are mostly on the same level, how about
taking one of your tennis sweat bands and stretching it around the limbs. Would give you a streak of color and a soft touch just prior to more serious damage. Another possibility would be a rubber crutch tip (painted bright orange) stuck onto the longest branch. At least it wouldn't cut you when making contact. And lastly, take some bright yellow tennis balls, cut an X and jam them on the branch tips. Hey, you just created new art!! "Arch" wrote in message ... Some, ok two, of you might recall my newly discovered signature objects in which I leave about 2 to 3 in. of the branches sticking out of Norfolk Is. pine spindles. I was really proud of my unique approach to fine art til someone who shall be nameless, mentioned that the up-turned branches add a sort of phallic look that I wasn't striving for. We artists are horribly driven and we expect to suffer for the sake of our art, however I'm seriously considering resigning to become a simple woodturner again. I can't see the d... branches even at low rpm and I've had so many scrapes and bruises lately that neosporin and band-aids have become a significant expense of my atelier work. I had hoped to recoup from sales to collectors, trophy wives, and other well pursed types, but so far, it hasn't happened. Anyway, Lorraine doesn't think much of my journey into art, so I have come to sneaking into the house to wash out my wounds with LDD, dress them and hide the blood. There's a lot of it since I take aspirin. My injuries are minor so far. I don't know what's worse for someone who already knows to be careful; "you should be more careful, Dear" (as if I don't start out to be careful) or the somewhat sharper "I wish you would stop making those things before you really hurt yourself, Arch". Heretofore, cheating on my wife involved sneaking two eggs for breakfast when she was away, but lately it's clandestine meetings with BFI and bandages. Meanwhile I type this with damaged fingers to inqui Do any of you sneak band-aids and hide your wounds as if you didn't know to be careful when turning wood. Of course we are all careful, but be sure to.... Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Arch, the last time I turned a piece with pieces sticking out, I
painted the ends with that typing correction fluid, called "Tipp-ex" here in the UK. Under a bright light they shone through very clearly. I did kill all other lights in the shop. Perhaps this would help before you get into strobes! Regards, Peter Charles Fagg Freshwater, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom. www.petersplatters.co.uk Each can do but little! But if each DID that little, ALL would be done! |
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Arch, I just got through testing the strobe idea, and I think it will help.
I chucked a 16" wooden ruler approximately midway in the jaws of a spigot chuck, so it was spinning like a propeller. Using the strobe, I was able to make the image stop, or drift in either direction. I was able to read the numbers on the ruler even with the room lights on. My main concern is whether you can find a strobe light like this. Mine is probably 40 or 50 years old--I got it as a junk or surplus item, and I believe this is actually the first time I have used it. I'm sure there are new units available, but at what price? |
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A little while after I started turning, I was hollowing a small box with a
scraper. I was leaning over peering into the box and got a catch. The tool handle smacked me upside the head, knocked off my glasses and sent them flying across the shop. I got a small but deep cut on my right temple. When I realized I was bleeding, I ran to the house, sneaked past my wife to the bathroom to see how bad it was. (I didn't want her to take my new toy way!) Well, the bleeding stopped quickly and I avoided a trip to the ER (although I probably could have used a couple of stitches). Let's all be careful out there...........:-) Barry "Arch" wrote in message ... Some, ok two, of you might recall my newly discovered signature objects in which I leave about 2 to 3 in. of the branches sticking out of Norfolk Is. pine spindles. I was really proud of my unique approach to fine art til someone who shall be nameless, mentioned that the up-turned branches add a sort of phallic look that I wasn't striving for. We artists are horribly driven and we expect to suffer for the sake of our art, however I'm seriously considering resigning to become a simple woodturner again. I can't see the d... branches even at low rpm and I've had so many scrapes and bruises lately that neosporin and band-aids have become a significant expense of my atelier work. I had hoped to recoup from sales to collectors, trophy wives, and other well pursed types, but so far, it hasn't happened. Anyway, Lorraine doesn't think much of my journey into art, so I have come to sneaking into the house to wash out my wounds with LDD, dress them and hide the blood. There's a lot of it since I take aspirin. My injuries are minor so far. I don't know what's worse for someone who already knows to be careful; "you should be more careful, Dear" (as if I don't start out to be careful) or the somewhat sharper "I wish you would stop making those things before you really hurt yourself, Arch". Heretofore, cheating on my wife involved sneaking two eggs for breakfast when she was away, but lately it's clandestine meetings with BFI and bandages. Meanwhile I type this with damaged fingers to inqui Do any of you sneak band-aids and hide your wounds as if you didn't know to be careful when turning wood. Of course we are all careful, but be sure to.... Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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You might try a novelty or party supplies store in your search for a strobe.
My kids have bought one that plugs in to a wall outlet and even has an intensity control on it to adjust the speed of the strobe flash. Sorry I don't know how much they paid, but it could not have been very much as it was paid for with their allowance. Nic "Arch" wrote in message ... Some, ok two, of you might recall my newly discovered signature objects in which I leave about 2 to 3 in. of the branches sticking out of Norfolk Is. pine spindles. I was really proud of my unique approach to fine art til someone who shall be nameless, mentioned that the up-turned branches add a sort of phallic look that I wasn't striving for. We artists are horribly driven and we expect to suffer for the sake of our art, however I'm seriously considering resigning to become a simple woodturner again. I can't see the d... branches even at low rpm and I've had so many scrapes and bruises lately that neosporin and band-aids have become a significant expense of my atelier work. I had hoped to recoup from sales to collectors, trophy wives, and other well pursed types, but so far, it hasn't happened. Anyway, Lorraine doesn't think much of my journey into art, so I have come to sneaking into the house to wash out my wounds with LDD, dress them and hide the blood. There's a lot of it since I take aspirin. My injuries are minor so far. I don't know what's worse for someone who already knows to be careful; "you should be more careful, Dear" (as if I don't start out to be careful) or the somewhat sharper "I wish you would stop making those things before you really hurt yourself, Arch". Heretofore, cheating on my wife involved sneaking two eggs for breakfast when she was away, but lately it's clandestine meetings with BFI and bandages. Meanwhile I type this with damaged fingers to inqui Do any of you sneak band-aids and hide your wounds as if you didn't know to be careful when turning wood. Of course we are all careful, but be sure to.... Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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"George" george@least wrote in message ... "Ken Moon" wrote in message k.net... Arch and Leo, You could do a strobe with an automotive timing light. Using a set of old fashioned ignition points (remember those?), a cam lobe attached to the spindle, a battery and an ignition coil, you'd be all set. Of course, you'd have to turn the lights down, so that may increase your band aid bill !! :-) Of course, that would be synchronous, and of little help. You could get the same effect by shining a flood through a hole in a piece of plywood spinning on the outboard. ========================= George, I'd have to try that, but I don't think that would "stop" the rotation like the timing light or a strobe light. The "stopping " effect is due to the sudden impulse of a capacitor thru the Xenon lights or single discharge thru the old cheapo neon lights trigged by the coil discharge. The plywood used with an incandescent light would give a moving "window", but the time of exposure at lower roughing speeds (below 1000 RPM) would tend to result in a blurring effect. There would be some penumbra effect as the hole approaches and departs the main beam area. The penumbra area would be dependent on distance from the plywood to the light source and the distance from the plywood to the work piece, and also the size of the light source. Like I said, I'd have to try it to be sure. Ken Moon Webberville, TX |
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Turn to Safety, Arch Arch, is that a goal or a credo? Mick |
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"Ken Moon" wrote: George, I'd have to try that (light flickering through a hole), but I don't think that would "stop" the rotation like the timing light or a strobe light. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ken, I am pretty sure your analysis is correct. A strobe is a bright, very short burst of light, as opposed to a sweeping beam. I want to add: to avoid skinned knuckles, you don't want perfect 1:1 synchronization. You can play with strobe frequency to make the image rotate slowly, or you can set the strobe to a frequency which is a multiple of the spindle speed, so the threatening branches from all sides are seen at once. If you just "stop" the image by exact synchronization, it will create a real sucker trap. |
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"Ken Moon" wrote in message ink.net... "George" george@least wrote in message ... "Ken Moon" wrote in message k.net... Arch and Leo, You could do a strobe with an automotive timing light. Using a set of old fashioned ignition points (remember those?), a cam lobe attached to the spindle, a battery and an ignition coil, you'd be all set. Of course, you'd have to turn the lights down, so that may increase your band aid bill !! :-) Of course, that would be synchronous, and of little help. You could get the same effect by shining a flood through a hole in a piece of plywood spinning on the outboard. ========================= George, I'd have to try that, but I don't think that would "stop" the rotation like the timing light or a strobe light. With the strobe only synchronous with one protrusion, the flash blind turner would bark knuckles on the next. I meant it as a joke, but I daresay a Fresnel lens and/or a radial slit might do. Actually, the branches can be used to reveal themselves by interrupting illumination by a properly placed flood with little effort. Light background to give greater contrast. |
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"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ... "Ken Moon" wrote: George, I'd have to try that (light flickering through a hole), but I don't think that would "stop" the rotation like the timing light or a strobe light. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ken, I am pretty sure your analysis is correct. A strobe is a bright, very short burst of light, as opposed to a sweeping beam. I want to add: to avoid skinned knuckles, you don't want perfect 1:1 synchronization. You can play with strobe frequency to make the image rotate slowly, or you can set the strobe to a frequency which is a multiple of the spindle speed, so the threatening branches from all sides are seen at once. If you just "stop" the image by exact synchronization, it will create a real sucker trap. Yep. |
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"George" george@least wrote in message ... "Ken Moon" wrote in message ink.net... "George" george@least wrote in message ... "Ken Moon" wrote in message k.net... Arch and Leo, You could do a strobe with an automotive timing light. Using a set of old fashioned ignition points (remember those?), a cam lobe attached to the spindle, a battery and an ignition coil, you'd be all set. Of course, you'd have to turn the lights down, so that may increase your band aid bill !! :-) Of course, that would be synchronous, and of little help. You could get the same effect by shining a flood through a hole in a piece of plywood spinning on the outboard. ========================= George, I'd have to try that, but I don't think that would "stop" the rotation like the timing light or a strobe light. With the strobe only synchronous with one protrusion, the flash blind turner would bark knuckles on the next. I meant it as a joke, but I daresay a Fresnel lens and/or a radial slit might do. Actually, the branches can be used to reveal themselves by interrupting illumination by a properly placed flood with little effort. Light background to give greater contrast. ================================== I agree. A contrasting background and good lighting should give you the best visual imaging of the protrutions as they twirl past your hand. Ken Moon Webberville, TX |
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Hi Mick, Both a goal and a credo.
Something I believe in andsomething I want everyone to try for. In truth, I wanted a signature like the tv ads, so repeatedly irritating that some would be forced to think about it. Thanks for asking. I hope it worked. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 18:42:32 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
wrote: Arch, I just got through testing the strobe idea, and I think it will help. I chucked a 16" wooden ruler approximately midway in the jaws of a spigot chuck, so it was spinning like a propeller. Using the strobe, I was able to make the image stop, or drift in either direction. I was able to read the numbers on the ruler even with the room lights on. My main concern is whether you can find a strobe light like this. Mine is probably 40 or 50 years old--I got it as a junk or surplus item, and I believe this is actually the first time I have used it. I'm sure there are new units available, but at what price? you might note that strobes can have very adverse effects on some people.. especially those on some types of medication... They had to take them out at my wife's old job at an health care place because they can cause seizures or something.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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Leo Lichtman wrote:
Arch, I just got through testing the strobe idea, and I think it will help. I chucked a 16" wooden ruler approximately midway in the jaws of a spigot chuck, so it was spinning like a propeller. Using the strobe, I was able to make the image stop, or drift in either direction. I was able to read the numbers on the ruler even with the room lights on. My main concern is whether you can find a strobe light like this. Mine is probably 40 or 50 years old--I got it as a junk or surplus item, and I believe this is actually the first time I have used it. I'm sure there are new units available, but at what price? Froogle "strobe -scanner -scan light party" and there are a bunch of hits. Seem to be going around $30 and up. Popular party item apparently. Rat Shack used to carry them but they don't seem to have them anymore. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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