On 31/01/2011 13:46, Alan Braggins wrote:
In , Huge wrote:
On 2011-01-30, Frank wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:58:08 -0000, Skipweasel
wrote:
In articlec5cf299e-9c62-42ca-be35-0ea9a4f45f0f@
33g2000pru.googlegroups.com, says...
A shower **and** a bath? Put the show over the bath.

Not always appropriate. We sweated blood trying (successfully) to fit in
a seperate shower 'cos the one we had over the bath was too hard for the
wife to get into. We wanted to keep the bath so the kids can have a soak
when they come home from rugby.

The beauty of a shower over the bath is that after you've soaked
yourself you can stand away from the spray whilst you soap/gel
yourself before hosing it all off, IYSWIM.

You need a decent sized shower cubicle.

The Subject is "Tiny Bathroom", so a decent sized shower cubicle and
a separate decent sized bath probably isn't possible. I know you can
get baths with doors in the side to make it easier for people with
restricted mobility to get in and out, but I don't know how well they
work. Obviously the door is only usable when the bath isn't full of
water....

Quick Google later, something like
http://www.practicalbathing.co.uk/the-topaz-2.html

You've spotted the fatal flaw. Strip off, get in bath, wait for it to
fill. Enjoy bath. Pull plug, wait for it fo drain. The middle bit is
fine, but the bits at either end aren't necessarily that pleasant.

In article , Clive George wrote:
On 31/01/2011 13:46, Alan Braggins wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:58:08 -0000, Skipweasel
wrote:
In articlec5cf299e-9c62-42ca-be35-0ea9a4f45f0f@
33g2000pru.googlegroups.com, says...
A shower **and** a bath? Put the show over the bath.

Not always appropriate. We sweated blood trying (successfully) to fit in
a seperate shower 'cos the one we had over the bath was too hard for the
wife to get into. We wanted to keep the bath so the kids can have a soak
when they come home from rugby.
[...]
The Subject is "Tiny Bathroom", so a decent sized shower cubicle and
a separate decent sized bath probably isn't possible. I know you can
get baths with doors in the side to make it easier for people with
restricted mobility to get in and out, but I don't know how well they
work. Obviously the door is only usable when the bath isn't full of
water....

Quick Google later, something like
http://www.practicalbathing.co.uk/the-topaz-2.html

You've spotted the fatal flaw. Strip off, get in bath, wait for it to
fill. Enjoy bath. Pull plug, wait for it fo drain. The middle bit is
fine, but the bits at either end aren't necessarily that pleasant.

Presumably someone with full mobility can just leave the door closed
and do what they'd do with a normal bath? And someone who can't get
into a normal bath and wants a shower doesn't have to go through the
wait to fill/drain bit.
If you want a bath and can't get into a normal bath, it's flawed, but
so is having to rely on a helper or hoist.

"Alan Braggins" wrote in message
...
In article , Clive
George wrote:
On 31/01/2011 13:46, Alan Braggins wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:58:08 -0000, Skipweasel
wrote:
In articlec5cf299e-9c62-42ca-be35-0ea9a4f45f0f@
33g2000pru.googlegroups.com, says...
A shower **and** a bath? Put the show over the bath.

Not always appropriate. We sweated blood trying (successfully) to fit
in
a seperate shower 'cos the one we had over the bath was too hard for
the
wife to get into. We wanted to keep the bath so the kids can have a
soak
when they come home from rugby.
[...]
The Subject is "Tiny Bathroom", so a decent sized shower cubicle and
a separate decent sized bath probably isn't possible. I know you can
get baths with doors in the side to make it easier for people with
restricted mobility to get in and out, but I don't know how well they
work. Obviously the door is only usable when the bath isn't full of
water....

Quick Google later, something like
http://www.practicalbathing.co.uk/the-topaz-2.html

You've spotted the fatal flaw. Strip off, get in bath, wait for it to
fill. Enjoy bath. Pull plug, wait for it fo drain. The middle bit is
fine, but the bits at either end aren't necessarily that pleasant.

Presumably someone with full mobility can just leave the door closed
and do what they'd do with a normal bath? And someone who can't get
into a normal bath and wants a shower doesn't have to go through the
wait to fill/drain bit.
If you want a bath and can't get into a normal bath, it's flawed, but
so is having to rely on a helper or hoist.

Why are you all talking about baths when I simply don't have rrom for one in
this particular 'bathroom'? However, I do have a separate, yet again small,
bathroom downstairs with a very tiny and practically useless bath in it!
Lucky none of the family particularly enjoy baths and prefer showers.

On 31/01/2011 16:09, Alan Braggins wrote:
In articleDI2dnYeWJue9X9vQnZ2dnUVZ8lidnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk, Clive George wrote:
On 31/01/2011 13:46, Alan Braggins wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:58:08 -0000, Skipweasel
wrote:
In articlec5cf299e-9c62-42ca-be35-0ea9a4f45f0f@
33g2000pru.googlegroups.com, says...
A shower **and** a bath? Put the show over the bath.

Not always appropriate. We sweated blood trying (successfully) to fit in
a seperate shower 'cos the one we had over the bath was too hard for the
wife to get into. We wanted to keep the bath so the kids can have a soak
when they come home from rugby.
[...]
The Subject is "Tiny Bathroom", so a decent sized shower cubicle and
a separate decent sized bath probably isn't possible. I know you can
get baths with doors in the side to make it easier for people with
restricted mobility to get in and out, but I don't know how well they
work. Obviously the door is only usable when the bath isn't full of
water....

Quick Google later, something like
http://www.practicalbathing.co.uk/the-topaz-2.html

You've spotted the fatal flaw. Strip off, get in bath, wait for it to
fill. Enjoy bath. Pull plug, wait for it fo drain. The middle bit is
fine, but the bits at either end aren't necessarily that pleasant.

Presumably someone with full mobility can just leave the door closed
and do what they'd do with a normal bath? And someone who can't get
into a normal bath and wants a shower doesn't have to go through the
wait to fill/drain bit.
If you want a bath and can't get into a normal bath, it's flawed, but
so is having to rely on a helper or hoist.

My comments are partly based on seeing what my grandmother-in-law
bought. It's a bath you sit in, theoretically designed for old/infirm
people, and I think it got used once. The bath is quite high - I reckon
I could do it without opening the door but would quite like a short
stepladder to help :-) It'll work as a shower, but a shower would do too
and be somewhat cheaper.

The hoist or belt solutions (my grandmother had a "Bath Knight") seem to
be rather more practical. I reckon I could have used a bath knight while
I had a bust hip, though fortunately our shower is big enough and has a
sensible surface to allow crutching into it and having something to lean
on while in (poor zimmer frame, relegated to being showered on), so I
just did that.

(Jo - it's thread drift. We're not talking about your immediate problem
any more.)

"Clive George" wrote in message
.. .
On 31/01/2011 16:09, Alan Braggins wrote:
In articleDI2dnYeWJue9X9vQnZ2dnUVZ8lidnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk, Clive
George wrote:
On 31/01/2011 13:46, Alan Braggins wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:58:08 -0000, Skipweasel
wrote:
In articlec5cf299e-9c62-42ca-be35-0ea9a4f45f0f@
33g2000pru.googlegroups.com, says...
A shower **and** a bath? Put the show over the bath.

Not always appropriate. We sweated blood trying (successfully) to
fit in
a seperate shower 'cos the one we had over the bath was too hard for
the
wife to get into. We wanted to keep the bath so the kids can have a
soak
when they come home from rugby.
[...]
The Subject is "Tiny Bathroom", so a decent sized shower cubicle and
a separate decent sized bath probably isn't possible. I know you can
get baths with doors in the side to make it easier for people with
restricted mobility to get in and out, but I don't know how well they
work. Obviously the door is only usable when the bath isn't full of
water....

Quick Google later, something like
http://www.practicalbathing.co.uk/the-topaz-2.html

You've spotted the fatal flaw. Strip off, get in bath, wait for it to
fill. Enjoy bath. Pull plug, wait for it fo drain. The middle bit is
fine, but the bits at either end aren't necessarily that pleasant.

Presumably someone with full mobility can just leave the door closed
and do what they'd do with a normal bath? And someone who can't get
into a normal bath and wants a shower doesn't have to go through the
wait to fill/drain bit.
If you want a bath and can't get into a normal bath, it's flawed, but
so is having to rely on a helper or hoist.

My comments are partly based on seeing what my grandmother-in-law bought.
It's a bath you sit in, theoretically designed for old/infirm people, and
I think it got used once. The bath is quite high - I reckon I could do it
without opening the door but would quite like a short stepladder to help
:-) It'll work as a shower, but a shower would do too and be somewhat
cheaper.

The hoist or belt solutions (my grandmother had a "Bath Knight") seem to
be rather more practical. I reckon I could have used a bath knight while I
had a bust hip, though fortunately our shower is big enough and has a
sensible surface to allow crutching into it and having something to lean
on while in (poor zimmer frame, relegated to being showered on), so I just
did that.

(Jo - it's thread drift. We're not talking about your immediate problem
any more.)

Gathered that....but I thought the idea of a newsgroup was for people to
give advice to those who post questions.....not to 'talk amongst
yourselves'!! (only jesting).

"Huge" wrote in message
...
On 2011-01-28, Andrew May wrote:
On 28/01/2011 16:15, djc wrote:
On 28/01/11 15:39, Jo wrote:
My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower
cubicle,
a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart
and
modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to
shower.

Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before?

Mine is as small, I made it a wetroom.

pictures here url:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djclark...7602063596078/


Impressive. But I have always wondered. If the point of a 'wet' room is
that it all gets wet how do you keep the toilet paper dry?

IME, you can't, even in much larger ones. Everything's always damp.

I never had a problem in my Swedish's flat.

It was *much* larger though

tim

On 1/31/2011 3:12 PM, tim.... wrote:
wrote
On 2011-01-28, Andrew wrote:

Impressive. But I have always wondered. If the point of a 'wet' room is
that it all gets wet how do you keep the toilet paper dry?

IME, you can't, even in much larger ones. Everything's always damp.

I never had a problem in my Swedish's flat.

It was *much* larger though

The only wet rooms I've used, have had shower curtains, and floors which
sloped to the drain. Never had a problem keeping the TP dry.

In message , Jo
writes

Why are you all talking about baths when I simply don't have rrom for one in
this particular 'bathroom'?

It's called thread drift - get used to it



--
geoff

On 31/01/11 20:12, tim.... wrote:
Mine is as small, I made it a wetroom.

pictures here url:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djclark...7602063596078/


Impressive. But I have always wondered. If the point of a 'wet' room is
that it all gets wet how do you keep the toilet paper dry?

IME, you can't, even in much larger ones. Everything's always damp.

I never had a problem in my Swedish's flat.

It was *much* larger though

Take TP out of wet-room when having shower, remember (or as as not don't)
to bring TP back in when required. Leaving TP outside the door still makes
it only arms length away so, as the point of the WetRoom was to fit the
essentials into a minimum space, I just live with it.


--
djc

In article ,
says...
May I refer the Honourable Gentleman to the ****ower?


Or the more genteel Shloo.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Skipweasel
saying something like:

In article ,
says...
May I refer the Honourable Gentleman to the ****ower?


Or the more genteel Shloo.

I see the manky *******s purloined the word...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=****ower
Mine was a joy to behold; a symphony of internal design and
function/form melding.

In article ,
says...
I see the manky *******s purloined the word...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=****ower
Mine was a joy to behold; a symphony of internal design and
function/form melding.

Instead of just stamping on it. Yeah - most things are better than that.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.