Metalworking (rec.crafts.metalworking) Discuss various aspects of working with metal, such as machining, welding, metal joining, screwing, casting, hardening/tempering, blacksmithing/forging, spinning and hammer work, sheet metal work.

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"J. Clarke" wrote:

Working on a decorative wagon wheel in wood, but I'd really like to put
a metal tire on it. Now, that's no trick if it's just for looks--make a
steel ring that's close enough to the dimension that a little epoxy
under it will hold it, but the devil in me wants to do a proper job and
shrink the thing.

Trouble is that this is a no-burn area so I can't just light a fire in
the back yard and heat the tire.

So, any ideas on how to go about this? The wheel is 2 feet in diameter,
making the tire too big to fit in a barbecue or the like. If I was
making a bunch of 'em I'd be tempted to just build a charcoal pit big
enough and call it a barbie, but that's a lot of work for one wheel.

And yeah, I know I can find a blacksmith, but I'm more interested in the
making than in having a wheel.



Are you going to have help setting the tire? From what I've read, this isn't a one person
job. I can't remember the name of the book larry talked me into reading. It is an
excellent reference. Maybe Larry will jump in with a title.


A link on wheelwrighting.

http://www.hct.ac.uk/Downloads/cp_wheel.html

Some other neat things at that site.
http://www.hct.ac.uk/Downloads/craftpublications.html


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On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:00:14 -0400, Wes
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"J. Clarke" wrote:

Working on a decorative wagon wheel in wood, but I'd really like to put
a metal tire on it. Now, that's no trick if it's just for looks--make a
steel ring that's close enough to the dimension that a little epoxy
under it will hold it, but the devil in me wants to do a proper job and
shrink the thing.

Trouble is that this is a no-burn area so I can't just light a fire in
the back yard and heat the tire.

So, any ideas on how to go about this? The wheel is 2 feet in diameter,
making the tire too big to fit in a barbecue or the like. If I was
making a bunch of 'em I'd be tempted to just build a charcoal pit big
enough and call it a barbie, but that's a lot of work for one wheel.

And yeah, I know I can find a blacksmith, but I'm more interested in the
making than in having a wheel.



Are you going to have help setting the tire? From what I've read, this isn't a one person
job. I can't remember the name of the book larry talked me into reading. It is an
excellent reference. Maybe Larry will jump in with a title.


_The Wheelwright's Shop_ by George Sturt. Amazon is getting an arm,
leg, and firstborn for 'em nowadays. And someone stole the copy I
read from our local library. sigh

Some of the carriagemaking books include that info, too, but George
covered putting a tire on a wheel in good depth.

There is lots of smoke when it's done right, but J might get a permit
from the fire department, and some of the local firemen might want to
watch a wheel being made/tired, so he should call.

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Are you going to have help setting the tire? From what I've read, this isn't a one person
job. I can't remember the name of the book larry talked me into reading. It is an
excellent reference. Maybe Larry will jump in with a title.


_The Wheelwright's Shop_ by George Sturt. Amazon is getting an arm,
leg, and firstborn for 'em nowadays. And someone stole the copy I
read from our local library. sigh

Some of the carriagemaking books include that info, too, but George
covered putting a tire on a wheel in good depth.

There is lots of smoke when it's done right, but J might get a permit
from the fire department, and some of the local firemen might want to
watch a wheel being made/tired, so he should call.


And then there is this big fire Bed of coals actually, so put a
grid over it and call it a steak pit.
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:49:16 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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_The Wheelwright's Shop_ by George Sturt. Amazon is getting an arm,
leg, and firstborn for 'em nowadays. And someone stole the copy I
read from our local library. sigh


I located several copies at about $12 each.

http://www.bookfinder.com/

Search for "Wheelwright" and "Sturt".
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On 7/31/2010 6:18 PM, Usual suspect wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:49:16 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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_The Wheelwright's Shop_ by George Sturt. Amazon is getting an arm,
leg, and firstborn for 'em nowadays. And someone stole the copy I
read from our local library.sigh


I located several copies at about $12 each.

http://www.bookfinder.com/

Search for "Wheelwright" and "Sturt".


It's also available free (well, most of it is anyway) from Google Books

http://books.google.com/books?id=lCmn0m0XSbgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+w heelwright's+shop&source=bl&ots=vPAopgzNmb&sig=ABI 2xdmYl7gKJYeo2WSXp1xXz3Q&hl=en&ei=xaVUTJzsFYOosQPR 6ZXZAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved= 0CCMQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false
or http://preview.tinyurl.com/2u85xp4.

However it doesn't really help with the extant issue--he discusses the
sort of oven that I do not want to build.



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On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:18:03 -0400, Usual suspect
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:49:16 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

_The Wheelwright's Shop_ by George Sturt. Amazon is getting an arm,
leg, and firstborn for 'em nowadays. And someone stole the copy I
read from our local library. sigh


I located several copies at about $12 each.

http://www.bookfinder.com/

Search for "Wheelwright" and "Sturt".


http://isbn.nu/9780521065702 from $9.44

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