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Anyone got any plans to make a Snow Plow for an ATV?
Thanks -- Steve |
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:43:31 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm,
"SteveC" quickly quoth: Anyone got any plans to make a Snow Plow for an ATV? I'll bet there are two or three on the FarmShow CDs. Try a search on www.farmshow.com (bottom of left column) 25 hits! -- "I'm sick and tired of having to rearrange my life because of what the STUPIDEST people *might* do or how they *might* react." -- Bill Maher |
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"SteveC" wrote in message
... Anyone got any plans to make a Snow Plow for an ATV? Thanks -- Steve huh. never thought to ask here about it. i've been wanting to build a snow pusher (similar to one of these http://www.curtiscabs.com/Snow_Pushers.html) for a kubota compact tractor. |
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![]() "SteveC" wrote in message ... Anyone got any plans to make a Snow Plow for an ATV? Are there any in stock at the local dealers? Take your tape measure, scratch paper and measure it up. I've done that with quite a few projects. I'm used to the funny looks I get (I get funny looks anyway) :-) |
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![]() Steve, Depending on how you value your time, you cannot build one for what they can be purchased for. Bob |
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really. So you've built one? If I could afford one, wouldn't you think I'd
have one bought already?? My time is free, so that's not an issue. Materials I can get for free or really cheap. And it's the satifaction of building yourself. Have you ever built something? -- Steve wrote in message ups.com... Steve, Depending on how you value your time, you cannot build one for what they can be purchased for. Bob |
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If you have to buy your materials at reasonable prices (new steel at a
steel supply place), have trouble with things like getting the plow blade bent in a real brake, and spend lots of extra time cutting stock with a sawsall rather than having it sheared to size, I'd say your real cost can be higher than buying at a sale or closeout. If you need a special unit, special features, have free material on hand, value your time at a low value, or want to try some new things, go ahead and build it. As for the ATV plow, I built a 36" blade for my old garden tractor. Used a section of steel from a discarded 80 gallon water heater. Lower edge was a peice of angle iron with three rows of hard surfacing bead for a wear edge. Made 4 pieces of 1/4" stock in an arc to give the blade some rigidity. Tractor was small enough that I did not need to make the blade pivot and spring load it like the bigger units. Depending on your use and ATV weight, you may need to add this feature. Tractor had a convient front mount plus an existing mower deck lift arm so all that was trivial. An ATV will need to have all this added. Would I build another for my newer tractor? See next paragraph: Go see your ATV dealer with tape measure in hand. Make notes, take pictures. And while you are there, ask if they have any used or damaged plow units. $100 for one with a few dings but includes the mount, undercarraige, and lift mechanism would be a great deal. SteveC wrote: really. So you've built one? If I could afford one, wouldn't you think I'd have one bought already?? My time is free, so that's not an issue. Materials I can get for free or really cheap. And it's the satifaction of building yourself. Have you ever built something? |
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![]() "SteveC" wrote in message ... Anyone got any plans to make a Snow Plow for an ATV? Thanks -- Steve I built one for my Arctic Cat 300 4x4. If you want some pics email me at . (no o's) I used a piece of dump truck plastic bedliner for the plow. It is light and the snow doesn't stick to it. Steve |
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"RoyJ" wrote in message
If you have to buy your materials at reasonable prices (new steel at a steel supply place), have trouble with things like getting the plow blade bent in a real brake, and spend lots of extra time cutting stock with a sawsall rather than having it sheared to size, I'd say your real cost can be higher than buying at a sale or closeout. I work in a welding/machine shop, so equipment is at my disposal. And we always have loads of excess metal lying around. We have a metal roller, so I can get a blade made in a few minutes. If you need a special unit, special features, have free material on hand, value your time at a low value, or want to try some new things, go ahead and build it. Thanks, I think I will try and build it myself!! :-) As for the ATV plow, I built a 36" blade for my old garden tractor. Used a section of steel from a discarded 80 gallon water heater. Lower edge was a peice of angle iron with three rows of hard surfacing bead for a wear edge. Made 4 pieces of 1/4" stock in an arc to give the blade some rigidity. Tractor was small enough that I did not need to make the blade pivot and spring load it like the bigger units. Depending on your use and ATV weight, you may need to add this feature. Tractor had a convient front mount plus an existing mower deck lift arm so all that was trivial. An ATV will need to have all this added. Would I build another for my newer tractor? See next paragraph: Go see your ATV dealer with tape measure in hand. Make notes, take pictures. And while you are there, ask if they have any used or damaged plow units. $100 for one with a few dings but includes the mount, undercarraige, and lift mechanism would be a great deal. SteveC wrote: really. So you've built one? If I could afford one, wouldn't you think I'd have one bought already?? My time is free, so that's not an issue. Materials I can get for free or really cheap. And it's the satifaction of building yourself. Have you ever built something? |
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Well, your snippy response to someone who suggested buying versus
building could have been tempered with "I work in a fabrication shop, have access to all the equipment AND shop excess scrap". Makes a big difference. Most of the hobbist types do NOT have the access, would have different plans. SteveC wrote: "RoyJ" wrote in message If you have to buy your materials at reasonable prices (new steel at a steel supply place), have trouble with things like getting the plow blade bent in a real brake, and spend lots of extra time cutting stock with a sawsall rather than having it sheared to size, I'd say your real cost can be higher than buying at a sale or closeout. I work in a welding/machine shop, so equipment is at my disposal. And we always have loads of excess metal lying around. We have a metal roller, so I can get a blade made in a few minutes. If you need a special unit, special features, have free material on hand, value your time at a low value, or want to try some new things, go ahead and build it. Thanks, I think I will try and build it myself!! :-) As for the ATV plow, I built a 36" blade for my old garden tractor. Used a section of steel from a discarded 80 gallon water heater. Lower edge was a peice of angle iron with three rows of hard surfacing bead for a wear edge. Made 4 pieces of 1/4" stock in an arc to give the blade some rigidity. Tractor was small enough that I did not need to make the blade pivot and spring load it like the bigger units. Depending on your use and ATV weight, you may need to add this feature. Tractor had a convient front mount plus an existing mower deck lift arm so all that was trivial. An ATV will need to have all this added. Would I build another for my newer tractor? See next paragraph: Go see your ATV dealer with tape measure in hand. Make notes, take pictures. And while you are there, ask if they have any used or damaged plow units. $100 for one with a few dings but includes the mount, undercarraige, and lift mechanism would be a great deal. SteveC wrote: really. So you've built one? If I could afford one, wouldn't you think I'd have one bought already?? My time is free, so that's not an issue. Materials I can get for free or really cheap. And it's the satifaction of building yourself. Have you ever built something? |
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Snippy? Not really, just reacting to your first response, like I didn't
know anything about metal work. Anyway, no good arguing about it. Life is too short!! Later man. -- Steve "RoyJ" wrote in message ink.net... Well, your snippy response to someone who suggested buying versus building could have been tempered with "I work in a fabrication shop, have access to all the equipment AND shop excess scrap". Makes a big difference. Most of the hobbist types do NOT have the access, would have different plans. SteveC wrote: "RoyJ" wrote in message If you have to buy your materials at reasonable prices (new steel at a steel supply place), have trouble with things like getting the plow blade bent in a real brake, and spend lots of extra time cutting stock with a sawsall rather than having it sheared to size, I'd say your real cost can be higher than buying at a sale or closeout. I work in a welding/machine shop, so equipment is at my disposal. And we always have loads of excess metal lying around. We have a metal roller, so I can get a blade made in a few minutes. If you need a special unit, special features, have free material on hand, value your time at a low value, or want to try some new things, go ahead and build it. Thanks, I think I will try and build it myself!! :-) As for the ATV plow, I built a 36" blade for my old garden tractor. Used a section of steel from a discarded 80 gallon water heater. Lower edge was a peice of angle iron with three rows of hard surfacing bead for a wear edge. Made 4 pieces of 1/4" stock in an arc to give the blade some rigidity. Tractor was small enough that I did not need to make the blade pivot and spring load it like the bigger units. Depending on your use and ATV weight, you may need to add this feature. Tractor had a convient front mount plus an existing mower deck lift arm so all that was trivial. An ATV will need to have all this added. Would I build another for my newer tractor? See next paragraph: Go see your ATV dealer with tape measure in hand. Make notes, take pictures. And while you are there, ask if they have any used or damaged plow units. $100 for one with a few dings but includes the mount, undercarraige, and lift mechanism would be a great deal. SteveC wrote: really. So you've built one? If I could afford one, wouldn't you think I'd have one bought already?? My time is free, so that's not an issue. Materials I can get for free or really cheap. And it's the satifaction of building yourself. Have you ever built something? |
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![]() "SteveC" wrote in message ... really. So you've built one? If I could afford one, wouldn't you think I'd have one bought already?? My time is free, so that's not an issue. Materials I can get for free or really cheap. And it's the satifaction of building yourself. Have you ever built something? -- Steve wrote in message ups.com... Steve, Depending on how you value your time, you cannot build one for what they can be purchased for. Bob Why do you want to act like an ass???You came here for peoples advice..then jump them when they give it to you. |
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Killfiled.
SteveC wrote: Snippy? Not really, just reacting to your first response, like I didn't know anything about metal work. Anyway, no good arguing about it. Life is too short!! Later man. |
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Because people are giving me attitude. Nobody has even answered my question
at all. If I wanted advice on whether I should build one myself or buy one commercially, then I would have asked that question. Buy my question was, Anyone got any plans to make a Snow Plow for an ATV? It's not a difficult question to answer. If you have plans, say yes, I have plans and share them, if not, don't respond or respond with , no, but you find them here. See my point? -- Steve "digitalmaster" wrote in message news ![]() "SteveC" wrote in message ... really. So you've built one? If I could afford one, wouldn't you think I'd have one bought already?? My time is free, so that's not an issue. Materials I can get for free or really cheap. And it's the satifaction of building yourself. Have you ever built something? -- Steve wrote in message ups.com... Steve, Depending on how you value your time, you cannot build one for what they can be purchased for. Bob Why do you want to act like an ass???You came here for peoples advice..then jump them when they give it to you. |
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:09:47 GMT, "SteveC"
wrote: Because people are giving me attitude. Nobody has even answered my question at all. If I wanted advice on whether I should build one myself or buy one commercially, then I would have asked that question. Buy my question was, Anyone got any plans to make a Snow Plow for an ATV? It's not a difficult question to answer. If you have plans, say yes, I have plans and share them, if not, don't respond or respond with , no, but you find them here. See my point? Stick around Steve. Attitude abounds on the USENET Anyway, I don't have any plans. What I can offer is this. We bought a Honda 3-wheeler and it came with a plow that was described as homemade. I can takes some pics for you and post them to my website and give you the URLS if you wish. I will try and include a tape measure for reference to inches and feet. Hope this helps |
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That would be awesome, thank you for your effort.
-- Steve "The Nolalu Barn Owl" gordie@nol alu.on.ca wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:09:47 GMT, "SteveC" wrote: Because people are giving me attitude. Nobody has even answered my question at all. If I wanted advice on whether I should build one myself or buy one commercially, then I would have asked that question. Buy my question was, Anyone got any plans to make a Snow Plow for an ATV? It's not a difficult question to answer. If you have plans, say yes, I have plans and share them, if not, don't respond or respond with , no, but you find them here. See my point? Stick around Steve. Attitude abounds on the USENET Anyway, I don't have any plans. What I can offer is this. We bought a Honda 3-wheeler and it came with a plow that was described as homemade. I can takes some pics for you and post them to my website and give you the URLS if you wish. I will try and include a tape measure for reference to inches and feet. Hope this helps |
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:00:52 GMT, "SteveC"
wrote: That would be awesome, thank you for your effort. You are quite welcome. I am not going to be able to do it until Friday because we plan to leave for a few days vacation @ 5 AM tomorrow and it is already dark now tonight. I WILL do it -- please be patient ![]() - Regards Gordie |
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Steve,
Yes, I build things in my shop all the time. However I do value my time and I try to build things that are unique, fun to build, something that I have a specific need for, or for a paying job. I look at common items and estimate what they can be purchased for, vs. the time and material to build. Then I make a "make or buy" decision. We HSM'ers all do that to one extent or another. It just depends where you set the bar. If you have the tools, materials, time, and desire, go for it. Good luck Bob |
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:43:31 GMT, "SteveC"
wrote: Anyone got any plans to make a Snow Plow for an ATV? Real men don't need no steenkin plans. If you have the ATV, use a measuring tape on it. For the blade, get a length of 1/4" wall x 30" diameter pipe, cut a section out of it lengthwise. For the plow frame, get some square tubing and look at a photo of an ATV plow frame, right he http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCa...br=5953M&tM=HO In the photo above, the semi-circular part is a 4" slice of 30" diameter x 1/4" wall pipe cut in half and then the two halves welded together. This should be about all the information you need to get the project done in a home workshop having just a cutting torch, drill press, and a buzz box stick welder. Just add some imagination. |
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![]() "Speechless" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:43:31 GMT, "SteveC" wrote: Anyone got any plans to make a Snow Plow for an ATV? Real men don't need no steenkin plans. If you have the ATV, use a measuring tape on it. For the blade, get a length of 1/4" wall x 30" diameter pipe, cut a section out of it lengthwise. Sounds mighty heavy For the plow frame, get some square tubing and look at a photo of an ATV plow frame, right he http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCa...br=5953M&tM=HO In the photo above, the semi-circular part is a 4" slice of 30" diameter x 1/4" wall pipe cut in half and then the two halves welded together. This should be about all the information you need to get the project done in a home workshop having just a cutting torch, drill press, and a buzz box stick welder. Just add some imagination. Don't forget a chop saw or band saw. |
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Thanks Bob.
-- Steve wrote in message ups.com... Steve, Yes, I build things in my shop all the time. However I do value my time and I try to build things that are unique, fun to build, something that I have a specific need for, or for a paying job. I look at common items and estimate what they can be purchased for, vs. the time and material to build. Then I make a "make or buy" decision. We HSM'ers all do that to one extent or another. It just depends where you set the bar. If you have the tools, materials, time, and desire, go for it. Good luck Bob |
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:00:52 GMT, "SteveC"
wrote: That would be awesome, thank you for your effort. Hi Steve, Sorry for the delay. http://my.tbaytel.net/nitesky/plow/index.html |
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Wow, thanks for the detailed pics. This will definitely help me build my
plow!! -- Steve "The Nolalu Barn Owl" gordie@nol alu.on.ca wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:00:52 GMT, "SteveC" wrote: That would be awesome, thank you for your effort. Hi Steve, Sorry for the delay. http://my.tbaytel.net/nitesky/plow/index.html |
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:37:59 GMT, "SteveC"
wrote: Wow, thanks for the detailed pics. This will definitely help me build my plow!! You are quite welcome Steve. My father used to say "Why buy if you can make". He would think nothing of whipping out a tape measure and notepad in Sears and then going home to make a copy. More than once he bought something, took possession of it long enough to sketch up some detailed plans and then would return it for a refund. Good luck to you and I hope you enjoy your project ![]() - Regards Gordie |
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![]() wrote in message news ![]() Here are some pics of my snow plow. Don't be posting your photos to a non-binary news group. If there's something you'd like to show, post them on a server and provide the link here. |
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:54:22 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm,
quickly quoth: Here are my latest pics. You will notice no more hinge up front. The wear Agent accepts yenc encoding but none of your pics show up ad viewable here. You're still doing something wrong, dude. It's best for you to post them on your website (or a picture site) and we can view them there. ------------------------------------------------------- Have you read the new book "What Would Machiavelli Do?" ---------------------------- http://diversify.com Dynamic, Interactive Websites! -------------------------------------------------------- |
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:44:49 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:54:22 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: Here are my latest pics. You will notice no more hinge up front. The wear Agent accepts yenc encoding but none of your pics show up ad viewable here. You're still doing something wrong, dude. It's best for you to post them on your website (or a picture site) and we can view them there. Simply put em in the drop box Gunner ------------------------------------------------------- Have you read the new book "What Would Machiavelli Do?" ---------------------------- http://diversify.com Dynamic, Interactive Websites! -------------------------------------------------------- "I think this is because of your belief in biological Marxism. As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural patterns relating to race would cause a conflict with your belief in biological Marxism." Big Pete, famous Usenet Racist |
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Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:44:49 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:54:22 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: Here are my latest pics. You will notice no more hinge up front. The wear Agent accepts yenc encoding but none of your pics show up ad viewable here. You're still doing something wrong, dude. It's best for you to post them on your website (or a picture site) and we can view them there. Simply put em in the drop box Gunner What he said. http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox.html --Winston |
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