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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:38:57 GMT, Gunner Asch
wrote: Conservatives Why do so many self-proclaimed "conservativses" seem to be both liars & total idiots? Not to mention brick-stupid, ignorant & full of superstitions? Was it something they ate? -- Cliff |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:44:27 -0500, Cliff wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:38:57 GMT, Gunner Asch wrote: Conservatives Why do so many self-proclaimed "conservativses" seem to be both liars & total idiots? Not to mention brick-stupid, ignorant & full of superstitions? Was it something they ate? Do they really eat? Mostly they just lick and mainly they suck and when dished up with facts they become bulemic. |
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Guido wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:44:27 -0500, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:38:57 GMT, Gunner Asch wrote: Conservatives Why do so many self-proclaimed "conservativses" seem to be both liars & total idiots? Not to mention brick-stupid, ignorant & full of superstitions? Was it something they ate? Do they really eat? They are canibals Guido. They eat their own. "That's the problem, you know, Republicans eat their own. ... Democrats stand by their own until hell freezes over," said Lott, who was ousted as Senate majority leader two years ago after making controversial race-based comments at a birthday party for the late Strom Thurmond. Trent Lott 04/2005 Mostly they just lick and mainly they suck and when dished up with facts they become bulemic. Mr. DeLay recently told a Christian conservative group that he had met the enemy and it was "a huge nationwide concerted effort to destroy everything we believe in." This "syndicate," DeLay said, was attacking the conservative movement by launching vicious personal attacks against its leaders. Ah, we know we're through the looking glass when DeLay turns to the words of Hillary Clinton for inspiration. It was Mrs. Clinton, remember, who was greeted with chortles when she decried the "vast right-wing conspiracy" out to destroy her and then-President Bill Clinton. Christian Science Monitor -- John R. Carroll Machining Solution Software, Inc. Los Angeles San Francisco www.machiningsolution.com |
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In article , John R. Carroll
says... Mr. DeLay recently told a Christian conservative group that he had met the enemy and it was "a huge nationwide concerted effort to destroy everything we believe in." This "syndicate," DeLay said, was attacking the conservative movement by launching vicious personal attacks against its leaders. Well, I guess as barney frank said, "not every Blunt instrument is a Hammer!" Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:29:53 GMT, "John R. Carroll"
wrote: Guido wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:44:27 -0500, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:38:57 GMT, Gunner Asch wrote: Conservatives Why do so many self-proclaimed "conservativses" seem to be both liars & total idiots? Not to mention brick-stupid, ignorant & full of superstitions? Was it something they ate? Do they really eat? They are canibals Guido. They eat their own. Vegetarian canibals. Nice! Christian Science Monitor He said that the President had become more detached, leaving more issues to Karl Rove and Vice-President Cheney. “They keep him in the gray world of religious idealism, where he wants to be anyway,” the former defense official said. Bush’s public appearances, for example, are generally scheduled in front of friendly audiences, most often at military bases. Four decades ago, President Lyndon Johnson, who was also confronted with an increasingly unpopular war, was limited to similar public forums. “Johnson knew he was a prisoner in the White House,” the former official said, “but Bush has no idea.” http://www.newyorker.com/fact/conten.../051205fa_fact |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:29:53 GMT, "John R. Carroll"
wrote: Was it something they ate? Do they really eat? They are canibals Guido. They eat their own. "That's the problem, you know, Republicans eat their own. ... Democrats stand by their own until hell freezes over," said Lott, who was ousted as Senate majority leader two years ago after making controversial race-based comments at a birthday party for the late Strom Thurmond. Eat our own? Hardly. Remove those that break the law or are unethical? Indeed. Dems keep their child molesters, rapists, murderers and criminals in office. Republicans clean their own house. One should also note..that Democrats, the party of the Racist..keep their Klu Klux Klan members in office for a very long time. Compare lots feel good comments to an old man..to the fact that the leading light of the DNC for a very very long time..KKK Byrd..was once the Grand Kleagle of the KKK. And he is Still in office. One should also note..that Clinton praised Fulbright, his one time mentor, a serious racist who consistantly voted against the various civil rights acts, as did most of the senior membership of the Democratic Party. Now as for praising old Senate warhorses... "This isn't exactly making the ABC, CNN, NBC, or CBS newscasts, so let me share something with you that happened on the floor of the U.S. Senate about five days ago. West Virginia Democrat Robert Byrd, "The Lion of the Senate", cast his 17,000th vote. Senators just love honoring each other whenever an excuse arises, and this vote was no exception. Senators rose to sing the praises of Robert Byrd. When it came time for Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd to speak he pulled out all the stops. To hear Dodd tell it, Robert Byrd was Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln wrapped up in one U.S. Senator. Byrd is a "man for all seasons." He said that Byrd would have been right during the formation of this country, and that he would have been "right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation." Dodd went on to say that he couldn't think of a time in the history of this nation when Robert Byrd wouldn't have been right for the country. OK, let's review. Byrd was a member of the Ku Klux Klan. Following World War II Robert Byrd wrote of his hopes for a rebirth of the Klan in his home state of West Virginia. In 1964 Byrd participated with fellow Democrats in an effort to filibuster the Civil Rights Act. Three years ago Byrd used the "N" word repeatedly in a Fox News interview. A former KKK member filibustering the Civil Rights Act. Was this a time when Robert Byrd was "right" for America? Do you remember a year or so ago when another U.S. Senator was delivering similar praise for another Senate war horse? In case your attention span is running rather short right now, we're talking about Senator Trent Lott and his speech at a birthday celebration for Strom Thurmond. Lott said that if America had followed Strom Thurmond years ago we wouldn't be in this mess we're in right now. Dodd said that Byrd, a KKK member, would have been "right" during the civil war, a war viewed by most as a war to free the slaves. Now just how long did it take after Lott's comments about Thurmond for all hell to break loose. Two days, thanks for asking. How long has it been now since Christopher Dodd's remarks about Strom Thurmond? Five days. Has there been any outrage expressed over Dodd's remarks? None. So why not? Why isn't Senator Chris Dodd taking heat for saying that a former KKK member would have been a dandy leader around the time of the Civil War? Oh come on now. You know the answer, don't you? Don't play dumb with me. Trent Lott is a conservative Republican, and he's from the South. Chris Dodd is a liberal Democrat, a good pal of Ted Kennedy, and he's from the North. He's from the center of the Washington - New York - Boston liberal stronghold. It's all very simple. If the Democrats call for a war of words and images against Trent Lott the liberal media is more than happy to oblige. If the Republicans call for a similar reaction against Chris Dodd for his remarks, the media will react with silence. And we're told there is no liberal bias in the mainstream media. Sure." Snicker..or the Democrat rank and file.. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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In article , Gunner Asch says...
Eat our own? Hardly. Remove those that break the law or are unethical? Heck, they do that for themselves. Cunningham bowed out quite gracefully, eliminating the need for taxpayer funds spend on a trial. Seems like your buddy Ed Meese was right after all.... Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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On 29 Nov 2005 05:31:11 -0800, jim rozen
wrote: In article , Gunner Asch says... Eat our own? Hardly. Remove those that break the law or are unethical? Heck, they do that for themselves. Cunningham bowed out quite gracefully, eliminating the need for taxpayer funds spend on a trial. Seems like your buddy Ed Meese was right after all.... Jim We did have to kick out Packwood and Nixon, with some kicking and screaming. And Mary Jo Kopechne is still dead, and her murderer is still on the Left side of the asle, along with a very nice selection of pimps (Franks), check kiters, racists and so forth. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:29:53 GMT, "John R. Carroll"
wrote: Mostly they just lick and mainly they suck and when dished up with facts they become bulemic. Mr. DeLay recently told a Christian conservative group that he had met the enemy and it was "a huge nationwide concerted effort to destroy everything we believe in." This "syndicate," DeLay said, was attacking the conservative movement by launching vicious personal attacks against its leaders. Ah, we know we're through the looking glass when DeLay turns to the words of Hillary Clinton for inspiration. It was Mrs. Clinton, remember, who was greeted with chortles when she decried the "vast right-wing conspiracy" out to destroy her and then-President Bill Clinton. The problem is that Mrs. Clinton was telling the truth while others are getting caught. Like Cunningham ..... just one in a long, long trail .... -- Cliff |
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