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Thought I'd ask here first.
Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? Thanks, Bob |
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Bob wrote:
Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? I thought their lifetime guarantee was only for hand tools. When I last used it, they just handed me a replacement, no questions asked. |
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On 4/28/2013 9:26 AM, Bob wrote:
Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. .... Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? I don't recall details on the Lifetime on power tools any longer...it has applied to only handtools, etc., for at least 35-40 yrs or so if not even earlier but my recollections or details are hazy at best w/o looking it up, and I'm sure your geogle works as well as mine... ![]() Do they still have a guarantee like this ? Yes, but only on the hand tools... If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? If covered, you get a current version of the closest to the same thing they've got and leave the dead one with them. Altho at a local small catalog store here I have talked them into repair kits for things like ratchets instead because the old handle is better-finished than the replacement new ones are so the feel is better--plus I like to keep the "patina" -- it's nice to have stuff around that have had for such long time. There are tools here on the farm that date back to my grandfather's first years here 100 yr ago...the recollection of using them w/ him as a young lad make them priceless. Worst you can have happen is they say it isn't covered. -- |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:26:43 -0400, Bob wrote:
Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Did Sears ever have a "lifetime guarantee" on their power tools? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? Not on power tools. They didn't forty years ago, either. If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They laugh at you. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? Their hand tools don't but IME they give you a junk non-Craftsman tool to replace it and then the warranty is done. I've been done with Crapsman tool for ages (though I did buy their lawn tractor because it was the best tractor for, by far, the least money). There isn't a Sears within easy driving range so that sorta caps it, for me. |
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Per Bob:
Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. .... Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, A few years back, I found myself in a similar situation with a Craftsman tap-and-die set. The taps and dies were ok, but the box's plastic disintegrated. NB: that, with a couple hundred small pieces, the organizing role of the box is pretty important. But Sears' response was "Sorry... we guarantee the tools, not the boxes they come in". Oh well.... -- Pete Cresswell |
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Bob wrote in :
Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? The lifetime guarantee *never* applied to power tools, only to hand tools. |
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Bob F wrote:
Bob wrote: Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? I thought their lifetime guarantee was only for hand tools. When I last used it, they just handed me a replacement, no questions asked. Hi, When my ratchet wrench broke, they gave me rebuid kit. |
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On 04-28-2013 10:26, Bob wrote:
If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Unless the nearest Sears is a hundred miles away, you'll get a faster answer there than on Usenet. And no matter what the distance, it will be a more reliable answer. -- Wes Groleau A pessimist says the glass is half empty. An optimist says the glass is half full. An engineer says somebody made the glass twice as big as it needed to be. |
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![]() Bob wrote: Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? Thanks, Bob Other folks covered the warranty angle, and I also don't recall it applying to any power tools. Beyond that, what is wrong with the saw? I would suspect by now the motor brushes probably need replacing and worn out brushes can certainly cause "doesn't work well" issues. Brushes are cheap and easy to replace. Probably that and a good cleaning and lubrication will have it running well again. |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:59:30 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote: Bob F wrote: Bob wrote: Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? I thought their lifetime guarantee was only for hand tools. When I last used it, they just handed me a replacement, no questions asked. Hi, When my ratchet wrench broke, they gave me rebuid kit. You didn't break it good enough. ;-) |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:26:43 -0400, Bob wrote:
Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? I used to buy Craftsman screwdrivers for the lifetime warranty, but Craftsman never made electrician tools that were comfortable to use. The sockets and wrenches do last forever. |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:26:43 -0400, Bob wrote:
Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? The warranty was for hand tools. I don't think they extend to power tools. The tools that are covered under warranty do not need a sails receipt. |
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You can depend on AHR to provide 30 opinions, contained in 20 replies. All of them wrong.
.. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. .. "Wes Groleau" wrote in message news:klk0f8$pnt$1@dont- Unless the nearest Sears is a hundred miles away, you'll get a faster answer there than on Usenet. And no matter what the distance, it will be a more reliable answer. -- Wes Groleau |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:25:41 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: You can depend on AHR to provide 30 opinions, contained in 20 replies. All of them wrong. With at least of the dumber responses top-posted. |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:18:12 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote: The sockets and wrenches do last forever. Not if you use a 3/4" socket for lug bolts (bolts, not nuts, Kaman Ghia) and jump on a 3' cheater bar. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:18:12 -0400, Metspitzer wrote: The sockets and wrenches do last forever. Not if you use a 3/4" socket for lug bolts (bolts, not nuts, Kaman Ghia) and jump on a 3' cheater bar. My Craftsman impact socket set takes good care of those problems. |
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Metspitzer wrote:
The warranty was for hand tools. I don't think they extend to power tools. The tools that are covered under warranty do not need a sails receipt.\ Or sales receipts. |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:42:31 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote: Metspitzer wrote: The warranty was for hand tools. I don't think they extend to power tools. The tools that are covered under warranty do not need a sails receipt.\ Or sales receipts. But some of the new sales receipts are big enough to be used as sails. |
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Don't you just hate it when the garage uses a 600 pound
air wrench, and leaves the threads dry so they rust on? .. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. .. "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... Not if you use a 3/4" socket for lug bolts (bolts, not nuts, Kaman Ghia) and jump on a 3' cheater bar. |
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Boat owners do it with sails reciepts.Wrench owners do it with torque. Radio operators do it with frequency.
.. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. .. "Bob F" wrote in message ... Metspitzer wrote: The warranty was for hand tools. I don't think they extend to power tools. The tools that are covered under warranty do not need a sails receipt.\ Or sales receipts. |
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:03:58 -0400, Pat wrote:
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:42:31 -0700, "Bob F" wrote: Metspitzer wrote: The warranty was for hand tools. I don't think they extend to power tools. The tools that are covered under warranty do not need a sails receipt.\ Or sales receipts. But some of the new sales receipts are big enough to be used as sails. Gottta get those California warning labels in there. |
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![]() "Bob" wrote in message ... Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? Thanks, Bob Just hand tools--I've heard of people buying old, junky, broken Craftsman hand tools at garage/yard sales for about $0.25 each and then returning them to Sears in exchange for new ones. Then sell the new tools relatively cheap. MLD |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:10:37 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:18:12 -0400, Metspitzer wrote: The sockets and wrenches do last forever. Not if you use a 3/4" socket for lug bolts (bolts, not nuts, Kaman Ghia) and jump on a 3' cheater bar. Dating yourself, Ed! |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:26:43 -0400, Bob wrote:
Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? Thanks, Bob If it lasted 45 years, I would get it repaired and cleaned. Some new brushes, bearings and lube, then it will still be running when it gets handed down to a grand kid. I haven't looked at any of the current Craftsman sabre saws, but I would be very, very surprised if the quality is anywhere as good as a 45 year old model. |
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 09:49:45 -0400, MG
wrote: On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:26:43 -0400, Bob wrote: Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? Thanks, Bob If it lasted 45 years, I would get it repaired and cleaned. Some new brushes, bearings and lube, then it will still be running when it gets handed down to a grand kid. I haven't looked at any of the current Craftsman sabre saws, but I would be very, very surprised if the quality is anywhere as good as a 45 year old model. Likely not even in the same universe, muchless planet. |
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On Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, Bob wrote:
Thought I'd ask here first. Have a Sears Craftsman Sabre Saw. Must be at least 45 years old. No longer works (well). Bought it when I was about 30 yrs of age. Sure does seem like eons ago ! Do they still have or honor that "Lifetime Guarantee" they had, if I remember right, many years ago for their power tools like this ? Do they still have a guarantee like this ? If so, and I bring it back, what happens? Of course, there is no longer a sales receipt available. They just give me a new one that looks a bit like the old, or require a 45 yr old sales receipt still, or... ? I JUST RETURNED MY DAMAGED TAPE MEASURE FOR REPLACEMENT AND FOUND THAT SEARS DOES NOT MAKE TAPE MEASURES ANYMORE. THEY REPLACED THE CRAFTSMAN TAPE MEASURE WITH ANOTHER BRAND BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS ONE BREAKS? SOUNDS LIKE A SNEAKY WAY TO GET AROUND A "LIFETIME WARRANTY" MAYBE A "CLASS ACTION SUIT" IS BREWING???? SEARS IS NOT WHAT THEY USED TO BE! |
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On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:07:28 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: SEARS IS NOT WHAT THEY USED TO BE! They are K Mart now. |
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eddie lampert runs sears k mart, he has milked money out of them
forever, sold off the assets. the problem is people prefer to shop at nice stores, by not reinvesting any money back into the stores they detoriate and sales fall. sears k mart will likely be sold off when eddie is done stripping the profits...... just walk thru your local sears or k mart, cracked floors, scratched display cases, holes in cieling tiles, worn out stores...... meanwhile eddie smiles he got his money out....... its all very sad........ intentially killing a chain of stores |
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Another Sears complaint is that they now fail to honor the lifetime
guarantee on the heat exchanger in their oil furnace because they no longer sell or service furnaces in my area (New Hampshire). They need to send a technician to certify that the thing is broken, but they have none here. Also looking up the heat exchanger on their website shows that it is no longer available. Of course the warranty was never worth that much in the first place, as a heat exchanger costs about $500 (covered), but the labor is about $1000 (not covered). So I will have to buy a new furnace before next winter, but it will be good to get rid of the Sears junk anyway. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH |
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On Thu, 30 May 2013 19:19:16 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: eddie lampert runs sears k mart, he has milked money out of them forever, sold off the assets. the problem is people prefer to shop at nice stores, by not reinvesting any money back into the stores they detoriate and sales fall. sears k mart will likely be sold off when eddie is done stripping the profits...... just walk thru your local sears or k mart, cracked floors, scratched display cases, holes in cieling tiles, worn out stores...... meanwhile eddie smiles he got his money out....... its all very sad........ intentially killing a chain of stores He is killing it faster, but it would die anyway. Just like J C Penney is dying. Wal Mart, Target, Kohl's are taking what walk in business is left and internet sales are still growing. I'm not so sure Wal Mart will do as well in the future. They seem to be out of a lot of product and there is a lot of negativity from some people because of their business model. |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 05:50:41 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote
in Re Sears Craftsman "Lifetime Guarantee" ?: I'm not so sure Wal Mart will do as well in the future. They seem to be out of a lot of product and there is a lot of negativity from some people because of their business model. I kept tally of my Wal Mart shopping "experience" for several months and found that 15% (average) of the items on my shopping list were out of stock (empty shelf). The worst section was the bakery. About 25% of the shelf space was empty at 10:00 AM on a Sunday morning. Every Sunday morning. Complaints to the home office brought no improvement. WM is the only game in our small town and they know it. Every time I leave a WM I find myself praying for a Target super center. |
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On May 31, 5:50*am, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Thu, 30 May 2013 19:19:16 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote: eddie lampert runs sears k mart, he has milked money out of them forever, sold off the assets. the problem is people prefer to shop at nice stores, by not reinvesting any money back into the stores they detoriate and sales fall. sears k mart will likely be sold off when eddie is done stripping the profits...... just walk thru your local sears or k mart, cracked floors, scratched display cases, holes in cieling tiles, worn out stores...... meanwhile eddie smiles he got his money out....... its all very sad........ intentially killing a chain of stores He is killing it faster, but it would die anyway. *Just like J C Penney is dying. *Wal Mart, Target, Kohl's are taking what walk in business is left and internet sales are still growing. I'm not so sure Wal Mart will do as well in the future. *They seem to be out of a lot of product and there is a lot of negativity from some people because of their business model. penneys was historical profitable and paid a dividend, till Ron crackpot Johnson was put in charge ![]() is less than 2 years his reinvention of retail nearly killed the retailer, the disaster could of easily been prevented if they had test marketed his ideas in one select area...... penneys will be lucky to survive, they could easily join montogmery ward and WT GRANT in the dustbin of one time great retailers who ceased to exist....... |
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On May 30, 10:19*pm, bob haller wrote:
eddie lampert runs sears k mart, he has milked money out of them forever, sold off the assets. the problem is people prefer to shop at nice stores, by not reinvesting any money back into the stores they detoriate and sales fall. sears k mart will likely be sold off when eddie is done stripping the profits...... just walk thru your local sears or k mart, cracked floors, scratched display cases, holes in cieling tiles, worn out stores...... meanwhile eddie smiles he got his money out....... its all very sad........ intentially killing a chain of stores The only thing going for Kmart is where they don't have competition from Walmart or similar. I have one here in NJ that's a lot closer to my house than either of two Walmarts. The Kmart is not the worst I've seen, but it's older and as you say they haven't put money back into it for a very long time. Their point of sale system is decades old. I have been in there a few times now where they couldn't check people out because it was either running slow or down altogether. It went down last year right before Xmas. I was standing in line, first it was running very slow, then it went down. To bring it back up,they have to download over some very slow link and do it one register at a time. After 10 or 15 mins, I suggested to mgt that they just give us bags so we could leave our stuff and come back later. That is what I and most of the other folks did. But how many times do you have to go through that before you don't go there again? And you would think having a good POS system would be one of the things you would put money into, unless you plan to close the store in a few months. This has been going onn for years..... |
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On Thu, 30 May 2013 22:28:00 -0400, Larry Weil wrote:
Another Sears complaint is that they now fail to honor the lifetime guarantee on the heat exchanger in their oil furnace because they no longer sell or service furnaces in my area (New Hampshire). They need to send a technician to certify that the thing is broken, but they have none here. Also looking up the heat exchanger on their website shows that it is no longer available. Of course the warranty was never worth that much in the first place, as a heat exchanger costs about $500 (covered), but the labor is about $1000 (not covered). So I will have to buy a new furnace before next winter, but it will be good to get rid of the Sears junk anyway. I found out that Sears purged data from their system. Took a product back and the clerk said they "never sold that item." I climbed the ladder until a manger "researched' my complaint. She finally found where Sears did sell the item. Got my $85 back. I have no clue as to why they purged data. |
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On Thu, 30 May 2013 19:19:16 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: eddie lampert runs sears k mart, he has milked money out of them forever, sold off the assets. He may be the CEO and he may well "run" the company but he does *NOT* "own" it. He is running the company as its share holders see fit. What's the problem? the problem is people prefer to shop at nice stores, by not reinvesting any money back into the stores they detoriate and sales fall. So "shop at a nice store" that suits your needs. If Sears or Kmart doesn't, don't shop there. In any case QUIT WHINING! What a loser. sears k mart will likely be sold off when eddie is done stripping the profits...... Good! What's it to you? just walk thru your local sears or k mart, cracked floors, scratched display cases, holes in cieling tiles, worn out stores...... I certainly didn't notice that last weekend when I was there (the first time in a year). In any case, if that offends your delicate sensibilities, DON'T GO THERE! meanwhile eddie smiles he got his money out....... "HE"? He is the employee of the share holders. Evidently they agree with him. You don't get a vote. its all very sad........ intentially killing a chain of stores That may be but IT'S NONE OF YOUR DAMNED BUSINESS. STOP WHINING! |
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