If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.



--
LSMFT

Simple job, assist the assistant of the physicist.

On 2010-11-08, LSMFT wrote:
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

Howzabout a midnight planting of several hundred PI plants on big-wig
environmentalist's properties. Concentrate on their gardens,
decorative flower beds close to the house, and around heavy traffic
areas. Then, do stake-out and get photos of illegal immigrant
gardners eradicating plants.

nb

On Nov 8, 11:16*am, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:04:57 -0500, LSMFT wrote:
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

I think we will need more information before we all go into a tizzy
over this info-fragment.

more info would be nice (missed the show) are we just supposed to grin
& bear it (the Ivy) ?

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:31:43 -0800 (PST), "gnu / linux"
wrote:

On Nov 8, 11:16 am, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:04:57 -0500, LSMFT wrote:
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

I think we will need more information before we all go into a tizzy
over this info-fragment.

more info would be nice (missed the show) are we just supposed to grin
& bear it (the Ivy) ?

The severe lack of details makes me think the post was maybe not
exactly truthful.

The source makes me think the same thing .......................

On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:36:31 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:31:43 -0800 (PST), "gnu / linux"
wrote:

On Nov 8, 11:16*am, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:04:57 -0500, LSMFT wrote:
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

I think we will need more information before we all go into a tizzy
over this info-fragment.

more info would be nice (missed the show) are we just supposed to grin
& bear it (the Ivy) ?

The severe lack of details makes me think the post was maybe not
exactly truthful.

I watched it -- the post is incomplete at best, untruthful at worst.
Most people, in most places, can still remove poison ivy from their
yards.

This particular house is on bank of the Charles River near Boston (so
yes, Mass.) with a 100 or 200 foot zone from the river's edge that has
very restrictred usage. This segment was with an "urban ecologist"
about the native and non-native species and landscape planning. These
particular people, with this particular property, can't remove the ivy
from that particular section *right now*, but will need to submit a
request to the conservation authority, and will likely be approved to
do that (but not, for example, to rip out all vegetation and pave or
plant a lawn to the river's edge).

But it's more fun to make outrageous claims, isn't it?

Josh

On 11/8/2010 3:15 PM, Josh wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:36:31 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:31:43 -0800 (PST), "gnu / linux"
wrote:

On Nov 8, 11:16 am, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:04:57 -0500, wrote:
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

I think we will need more information before we all go into a tizzy
over this info-fragment.

more info would be nice (missed the show) are we just supposed to grin
& bear it (the Ivy) ?

The severe lack of details makes me think the post was maybe not
exactly truthful.

I watched it -- the post is incomplete at best, untruthful at worst.
Most people, in most places, can still remove poison ivy from their
yards.

This particular house is on bank of the Charles River near Boston (so
yes, Mass.) with a 100 or 200 foot zone from the river's edge that has
very restrictred usage. This segment was with an "urban ecologist"
about the native and non-native species and landscape planning. These
particular people, with this particular property, can't remove the ivy
from that particular section *right now*, but will need to submit a
request to the conservation authority, and will likely be approved to
do that (but not, for example, to rip out all vegetation and pave or
plant a lawn to the river's edge).

But it's more fun to make outrageous claims, isn't it?

The party of the perpetually upset.

Jeff

Josh

On Nov 8, 5:00*pm, Jeff Thies wrote:
On 11/8/2010 3:15 PM, Josh wrote:



On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:36:31 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:31:43 -0800 (PST), "gnu / linux"
*wrote:

On Nov 8, 11:16 am, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:04:57 -0500, *wrote:
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

I think we will need more information before we all go into a tizzy
over this info-fragment.

more info would be nice (missed the show) are we just supposed to grin
& *bear it (the Ivy) ?

The severe lack of details makes me think the post was maybe not
exactly truthful.

I watched it -- the post is incomplete at best, untruthful at worst.
Most people, in most places, can still remove poison ivy from their
yards.

This particular house is on bank of the Charles River near Boston (so
yes, Mass.) with a 100 or 200 foot zone from the river's edge that has
very restrictred usage. *This segment was with an "urban ecologist"
about the native and non-native species and landscape planning. *These
particular people, with this particular property, can't remove the ivy
from that particular section *right now*, but will need to submit a
request to the conservation authority, and will likely be approved to
do that (but not, for example, to rip out all vegetation and pave or
plant a lawn to the river's edge).

But it's more fun to make outrageous claims, isn't it?

* *The party of the perpetually upset.

* *Jeff



Josh

truth is if you are not denuding the area, there is nothing stopping
you from doing property maintenance anywhere. PI is not wetland
vegetation. Pulling up a few random vines will not result in a summons

wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:04:57 -0500, wrote:

If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

I think we will need more information before we all go into a tizzy
over this info-fragment.


All you had to do was watch This Old House this past Sunday on PBS.

--
LSMFT

Simple job, assist the assistant of the physicist.

LSMFT wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:04:57 -0500, wrote:

If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

I think we will need more information before we all go into a tizzy
over this info-fragment.


All you had to do was watch This Old House this past Sunday on PBS.



This past SATURDAY I meant.

--
LSMFT

Simple job, assist the assistant of the physicist.

On 11/8/2010 6:04 PM, LSMFT wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:04:57 -0500, wrote:

If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

I think we will need more information before we all go into a tizzy
over this info-fragment.


All you had to do was watch This Old House this past Sunday on PBS.

An episode number would help- they don't run on the same day or in the
same order in all areas. My local PBS stuffs them in around the edges,
sometimes in apparently random order. I just tell the DVR to grab all
new episodes, and every few months when I have a slow day, watch them in
order. (FF'ing through the boring parts like the visits to interior
designers and kitchen shops.)

--
aem sends...

--
aem sends...

"LSMFT" wrote in message
...
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own property
any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are working in;
Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.



--
LSMFT

Simple job, assist the assistant of the physicist.

I never watch. Haven't for many years. I quit watching when they stopped
doing projects that real people might choose to do. Very few real people are
willing to drop 500K or more into a renovation even if they are getting some
comps.


--
Colbyt
Please come visit http://www.househomerepair.com

On 11/8/2010 6:55 PM, Colbyt wrote:
wrote in message
...
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own property
any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are working in;
Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.



--
LSMFT

Simple job, assist the assistant of the physicist.

I never watch. Haven't for many years. I quit watching when they stopped
doing projects that real people might choose to do. Very few real people are
willing to drop 500K or more into a renovation even if they are getting some
comps.


I mostly agree with you- that is why I don't bother to hunt it down real
time any more. But even as 'this old mansion', they sometimes have
interesting segments between the product plugs and SWMBO-bait decorating
and kitchen segments. DVR is great for that- I can FF through the boring
parts. Norm may be an expert machinist that happens to work in wood, but
the stuff he does has little application to those of us without a
cabinetry woodshop. OTOH, the segments with Tommy Silva showing how to
reframe something or whatever are very good- he reminds me of some of
the old coot master carpenters that used to work for my father. Crusty,
but if you showed the right attitude, great teachers. I wish I could
find somebody with half his skills (that worked cheap, of course) to
hire around here, for the stuff I'll never get around to.

--
aem sends...

"LSMFT" wrote in message
...
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

As another poster noted, you're correct. What you omitted is that the house
was by a waterway in a flood plain and the poison ivy was in what the local
conservation commission calls a "buffer zone." Apparently you can remove
invasives without permission but native species, even the horribly agressive
wild grape and itching king, poison ivy are both untouchable within 100' of
the river. How anyone would ever see me dribbling Roundup from a squeeze
bottle in the late evening is beyond me, but those are apparently the
rules - poison ivy must stay, at least near the waterway. As neat as I
think it might me, you probably wouldn't catch me living along a river bank
now that we're seeing 12" of rain in one day in my area. Gawd, if that had
been snow we would still be digging.

http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/tv/h...387317,00.html


Program #3005
Auburndale Project, Part 5 of 16
Saturday, November 6, 2010 at 1:30pm ET (check local listings)

Master carpenter Norm Abram meets homeowner Allison Sharma to review
progress and see the new front entry and framed up kitchen. At the garage,
he helps general contractor Tom Silva turn the flat roof into a pitched roof
with the help of some prefabricated trusses. Kitchen designer Donna Venegas
and homeowner Raveen Sharma review the layout of the new kitchen with the
help of a paper mock-up. In the backyard, landscape contractor Roger Cook
and urban ecologist Peter DelTredici [this is the segment about poison ivy -
RG] show host Kevin O'Connor the native and non-native species taking over
the flood plain. Norm and Tom review the layout for the new back deck and
walkways and get to work setting 12 new footings to support them. Later,
they frame up the floor of the new sunroom using engineered lumber.

--
Bobby G.

On Nov 8, 10:07*pm, "Robert Green" wrote:

How anyone would ever see me dribbling Roundup from a squeeze
bottle in the late evening is beyond me

I'm sure your neighbors are used to seeing you dribbling.

R

In article ,
wrote:
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:07:48 -0500, "Robert Green"
wrote:

Apparently you can remove
invasives without permission but native species, even the horribly agressive
wild grape and itching king, poison ivy are both untouchable within 100' of
the river. How anyone would ever see me dribbling Roundup from a squeeze
bottle in the late evening is beyond me,

I doubt regular Round Up would do much more than wilt the leaves. We
have been using Brush B gone with spotty results but Garlon does a
great job.

Geez, when I removed poison ivy from our back yard I just put on some old
clothes with long sleeve shirt, some gloves, and pulled it up.
--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:49:27 -0800 (PST), gus2008
wrote:

On Nov 8, 5:00*pm, Jeff Thies wrote:
On 11/8/2010 3:15 PM, Josh wrote:



On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:36:31 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:31:43 -0800 (PST), "gnu / linux"
*wrote:

On Nov 8, 11:16 am, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:04:57 -0500, *wrote:
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own
property any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are
working in; Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.

I think we will need more information before we all go into a tizzy
over this info-fragment.

more info would be nice (missed the show) are we just supposed to grin
& *bear it (the Ivy) ?

The severe lack of details makes me think the post was maybe not
exactly truthful.

I watched it -- the post is incomplete at best, untruthful at worst.
Most people, in most places, can still remove poison ivy from their
yards.

This particular house is on bank of the Charles River near Boston (so
yes, Mass.) with a 100 or 200 foot zone from the river's edge that has
very restrictred usage. *This segment was with an "urban ecologist"
about the native and non-native species and landscape planning. *These
particular people, with this particular property, can't remove the ivy
from that particular section *right now*, but will need to submit a
request to the conservation authority, and will likely be approved to
do that (but not, for example, to rip out all vegetation and pave or
plant a lawn to the river's edge).

But it's more fun to make outrageous claims, isn't it?

* *The party of the perpetually upset.

* *Jeff


Josh

truth is if you are not denuding the area, there is nothing stopping
you from doing property maintenance anywhere. PI is not wetland
vegetation. Pulling up a few random vines will not result in a summons

However, doing so or even saying it's okay to do so on national
television is more likely to attract attention...

Josh

"LSMFT" wrote in message
...
If you watched this old house this weekend you noticed that because of
environmentalists you can't even kill the poison ivy on your own property
any more. Are thay kidding? I'm not sure what state they are working in;
Mass maybe; but it's probably coming to your state.
I think I'll go dig up some lady slippers in protest.





I don't know if they are kidding, but once, I had a guy take down all the
brush in my yard.
All he did was weed whack the stuff.
I came home and had a swollen face, eyes mouth and lots of eruptions on my
skin because the stuff had gone airborne.I don't know what the basis for
this was, but damn don't do it near my house. I will end up in the
hospital.