Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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The stock market is down again. Was it something HE said ?:-)

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:30:16 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson


1. Clear plastic.

2. Bird spikes.

John

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:20:37 -0800, John Larkin
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:30:16 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson


1. Clear plastic.

Of course.


2. Bird spikes.

Ugly, but I bought some for some strategic gutter problems... where it
doesn't show.


John


I found, of all things, WINE tanks with conical bottoms, that it looks
like I can cut up for my needs.

...Jim Thompson
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With all this hope and change, all you need is a dab of mayonaisse
and you'll have a tasty lunch on which you will choke to death.

"Jim Thompson" wrote
in message

I found, of all things, WINE tanks with conical bottoms, that it looks
like I can cut up for my needs.

Try razor wire. No more foolin' around.


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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:20:37 -0800, John Larkin
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:30:16 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson


1. Clear plastic.

2. Bird spikes.

John

Cat inside of cage...or owl

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message news
Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Make it a cat cage instead of bird cage :-)
Can you cut every other wire and bend it out to make it difficult to stand
on.
Probably not, I think the wires are to short.
My neighbors have 3" wire sticking up at +45 and -45 degrees off the top
of their mailbox to keep the birds away.
Mike
PS. I work on a marina and the idiots just love to feed the seagulls (flying
rats).
If you fed one you have 80 flying around.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:23:48 -0600, "amdx" wrote:


"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message news
Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85? today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Make it a cat cage instead of bird cage :-)
Can you cut every other wire and bend it out to make it difficult to stand
on.
Probably not, I think the wires are to short.
My neighbors have 3" wire sticking up at +45 and -45 degrees off the top
of their mailbox to keep the birds away.
Mike
PS. I work on a marina and the idiots just love to feed the seagulls (flying
rats).
If you fed one you have 80 flying around.


Paradise Valley Mall has REAL barn owls nesting at each entryway...
ZIPPO pigeons... the PETA people are outraged ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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The stock market is down again. Was it something HE said ?:-)

In message , Jim Thompson
writes
Paradise Valley Mall has REAL barn owls nesting at each entryway...
ZIPPO pigeons... the PETA people are outraged ;-)
Total win on all counts there then.

You could use fishing shock leader and strung to the ceiling in a
conical fashion, transparent and very tough (100lb+ breaking strain
leaders are available) so the birds would have to hang sideways.

...Jim Thompson

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Clint Sharp

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:29:33 +0000, Clint Sharp
wrote:

In message , Jim Thompson
writes
Paradise Valley Mall has REAL barn owls nesting at each entryway...
ZIPPO pigeons... the PETA people are outraged ;-)
Total win on all counts there then.

You could use fishing shock leader and strung to the ceiling in a
conical fashion, transparent and very tough (100lb+ breaking strain
leaders are available) so the birds would have to hang sideways.

...Jim Thompson

Interesting idea! I haven't fished since I was a kid. What is
"shock" leader?

...Jim Thompson
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An engineer is supposed to have an inquisitive mind and question
unproven theories. Leftist weenies have neither attribute. Their
behavior is of a religious nature. Thus, like all religious nut-
cases, they should be culled from the fraternity and dispatched.

In message , Jim Thompson
writes
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:29:33 +0000, Clint Sharp
wrote:
You could use fishing shock leader and strung to the ceiling in a
conical fashion, transparent and very tough (100lb+ breaking strain
leaders are available) so the birds would have to hang sideways.

...Jim Thompson

Interesting idea! I haven't fished since I was a kid. What is
"shock" leader?

...Jim Thompson
It's heavy mono filament (60lb+) that's used to take the strain of the
cast when you are using heavy weights for beach fishing. Two rod lengths
attached to the main lighter line is plenty to take the shock of casting
out a 4oz lead from behind your back. It's rather undesirable to have
4oz of possibly spiked lead flying uncontrolled because your main line
wasn't up to it. (Spikes to grip in the sand against the tide)

I'm almost certain it's just 60lb+ mono filament line sold in small
reels and can come in all sorts of funky colours as well as clear.

Reminds me, I must go fishing again....

--
Clint Sharp

Paradise Valley Mall has REAL barn owls nesting at each entryway...
ZIPPO pigeons... the PETA people are outraged ;-)

Why are pigeons more valuable than owls? (That's a rhetorical
question. I don't expect a sensible answer from PETA or anybody
else. I prefer owls. There are plenty of pigeons.)


A year or two ago, there was a falcon that spent a lot of time
on the top of the Palo Alto city hall building. At 9 stories,
it was one of the taller places around. I assume it was checking
out the local housing.

Local bird watchers thought this was a great idea. Lots of other
locals were not supportive. The problem was that the falcon was
dropping leftover pigeon bits down on the entranceway and it didn't
pay much attention to wheather there were people there or not.
Some of the locals were grossed out.


Back to the original question...

I saw some cones of flimsy plastic at the floral section of
the supermarket tonight. They were big end up on some orchids
or such.

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In article , hal-
says...

Paradise Valley Mall has REAL barn owls nesting at each entryway...
ZIPPO pigeons... the PETA people are outraged ;-)

Why are pigeons more valuable than owls? (That's a rhetorical
question. I don't expect a sensible answer from PETA or anybody
else. I prefer owls. There are plenty of pigeons.)


A year or two ago, there was a falcon that spent a lot of time
on the top of the Palo Alto city hall building. At 9 stories,
it was one of the taller places around. I assume it was checking
out the local housing.

Local bird watchers thought this was a great idea. Lots of other
locals were not supportive. The problem was that the falcon was
dropping leftover pigeon bits down on the entranceway and it didn't
pay much attention to wheather there were people there or not.
Some of the locals were grossed out.

Now that is too funny. People needed to learn the feeding habits of the
falcon, then they wouldn't have to worry about the pigeon bits.

Two photos for ya:

Caught this Red Tailed Hawk outside on the balcony of the RI State
Library which is in the State House. I've been told he frequently
lunches up there, his specialty is rabbit.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kd1s/536130528/sizes/l/


And here's on of a pigeon belly up and partially encased in ice.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/3...bc013ff1_b.jpg

I do know there are a pair of Red Tails that nest on the tower across
from the park where this was taken.

T wrote:
In article , hal-
says...
Paradise Valley Mall has REAL barn owls nesting at each entryway...
ZIPPO pigeons... the PETA people are outraged ;-)
Why are pigeons more valuable than owls? (That's a rhetorical
question. I don't expect a sensible answer from PETA or anybody
else. I prefer owls. There are plenty of pigeons.)


A year or two ago, there was a falcon that spent a lot of time
on the top of the Palo Alto city hall building. At 9 stories,
it was one of the taller places around. I assume it was checking
out the local housing.

Local bird watchers thought this was a great idea. Lots of other
locals were not supportive. The problem was that the falcon was
dropping leftover pigeon bits down on the entranceway and it didn't
pay much attention to wheather there were people there or not.
Some of the locals were grossed out.

Now that is too funny. People needed to learn the feeding habits of the
falcon, then they wouldn't have to worry about the pigeon bits.

Two photos for ya:

Caught this Red Tailed Hawk outside on the balcony of the RI State
Library which is in the State House. I've been told he frequently
lunches up there, his specialty is rabbit.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kd1s/536130528/sizes/l/

Cant see it it says this page is private


And here's on of a pigeon belly up and partially encased in ice.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/3...bc013ff1_b.jpg


can see the pigeon


I do know there are a pair of Red Tails that nest on the tower across
from the park where this was taken.

In article ,
says...

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message news
Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Make it a cat cage instead of bird cage :-)
Can you cut every other wire and bend it out to make it difficult to stand
on.
Probably not, I think the wires are to short.
My neighbors have 3" wire sticking up at +45 and -45 degrees off the top
of their mailbox to keep the birds away.
Mike
PS. I work on a marina and the idiots just love to feed the seagulls (flying
rats).
If you fed one you have 80 flying around.

Time for the Alka-Seltzer! The gulls are fairly stupid in that regard.

Jim Thompson Inscribed thus:

Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Very pretty !

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

You need spikes !

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

Plastic grass should be spikey enough.

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson

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Baron.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:30:16 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Try the graphic arts section in an art store for flexible plastic. You
can also get cool chrome-look metallized plastic film etc.

If you can't find anything, I could send you a sheet of ~6 mil Lexan
rolled up in a paper tube, but you should be able to get it locally in
one-off.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:50:21 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:30:16 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Try the graphic arts section in an art store for flexible plastic. You
can also get cool chrome-look metallized plastic film etc.

If you can't find anything, I could send you a sheet of ~6 mil Lexan
rolled up in a paper tube, but you should be able to get it locally in
one-off.

Ah! Yes! I remember Lexan... Goodyear Aerospace used it for fighter
windshields. I took some home to make windows, for my gas light, that
the punks couldn't break with rocks ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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With all this hope and change, all you need is a dab of mayonaisse
and you'll have a tasty lunch on which you will choke to death.

How about a shot of 15 kV high-audio frequency ac at ten second (or so)
intervals. Like a TV flyback transformer. At 16 kHz. you ought to be able
to get enough stray corona to knock the little *******s on their hineys.

Jim

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without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message news
Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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The stock market is down again. Was it something HE said ?:-)

Jim Thompson wrote:
Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Make it into a Bug (BIRD)Zapper by re-working a Bug Zapper
Else Adopt a bigger CAT

Yukio YANO

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news
Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)


Invert the cone, add a solid plexiglass top. ;-)

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:10:14 -0500, Steve wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:00:18 -0500, "Garberstreet Electronics"
put together some random words that came up with:


"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news
Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)


Invert the cone, add a solid plexiglass top. ;-)

Garberstreet Electronics

How do the birds get inside in the first place? My first thought would be
keeping the birds out.

Steve

An "entryway" in Arizona is the covered "porch" outside your front
door.

...Jim Thompson
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With all this hope and change, all you need is a dab of mayonaisse
and you'll have a tasty lunch on which you will choke to death.

Jim Thompson wrote:
Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson

High Voltage.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:30:16 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Buy a new light fitting.

On 2009-02-25, Jim Thompson wrote:
Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Chandelier? more like suspended oyster lumiere.

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

It's Spring in AZ, 85°F today, so my need is immediate ;-)

...Jim Thompson

how about a bunch of bristles (I've not seen birds on spiny cacti)
could be spring steel, stainless or linetrimmer line,

or just a cone of multiple nylon strands.

Thin polycarbonate sheet could work too it's reasonably heat tolerant.
anything under about .75mm should be flexible enough to take that form.

Jim Thompson wrote:
Many of you will recall several years ago I made a cage to prevent
birds from nesting in an entryway chandelier...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BirdCage.jpg

Prevents nesting, but the !@#$%^&* birds still hang onto the wire grid
and poop into the chandelier :-(

Since there has been recent discussion on S.E.D of flexible plastics,
I was wondering if there's something available flexible enough to redo
my "bird cage" so that the birds can't cling to it?

Not a bird cage, but a set of ~1mm dia monofilament radial spikes at two
depths will keep birds from landing on something. Widely used on
buildings, but I expect you could do your own using the chandelier for
support.

Regards,
Martin Brown