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"Gunner" wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:13:42 -0800, "PrecisionMachinisT" wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:56:45 -0800, "PrecisionMachinisT" wrote: While you've identified one quite large group of paranoids, there's a whole nother group of them you seem completely incapable of recognizing....( hint )--they're pretty much the same ones that "are gonna greet us in the streets with roses"....... -- SVL http://piratescove.typepad.com/pirat...ery_quiet.html February 02, 2005 Libs very quiet on the Iraqi elections You remember, those elections that we were told would 1. Never happen 2. Be delayed 3. fail miserably 4. paint the streets red with blood snip None of those were *my* predictions....... You gonna send me a dozen roses now that we got that one straightened up ??? Shrug..your Ilk (I love that word) said it..and you lay up with them...so even if you didnt say it outright ...and Im sure if I wanted to take the time to use Google archives Im sure I can find data that would indicate you and a number of others here stated something similar.... If you lay down with the dogs..dont be surprised if you get fleas..or at least..branded a dog. Naww, I'm thinking ya just tend ta shove me off towards the left if I bring up any "issues" is all--but its really no biggee as far as I'm concerned...... Quite simply, I sleep where its comfortably warm......and if that happens to be with the dogs, then so be it.......the dogs got our cats beat hands down when it comes to that particular attibute. -- SVL |
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 06:32:13 GMT, Gunner
wrote: Eccentric? I won? I won! I won I won I won!!!1 I wish to thank my Mom and Dad..and all the members of the Academy for this great honor, and of course all my handlers at the Home, the nice men in white coats over at HARRP HQ, the Sons of the Pioneers, Ed Huntress for polishing my boots, Hamie for sending a couple of his low class chink hookers to give me a delightful I &I, and all the Little People, like John Moses Browning, and Samuel Colt, and Felix the Cat. I wish to further give thanks for the people who designed Jim Rozens Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie and the selflish lads manning the black helicopters and the mind control rays. Great Job guys! I accept this title with the greatest honor and thanks to you all! Good night, sleep tight and dont let the bedbugs bite. Who brought the bean dip? Thats good **** Maynard! Somebody pop a cap too near your crib, Gunner? Eccentricity is sometimes merely a consequence of damage, said eccentricity causing excessive noise and abrasion.... G |
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:24:17 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
wrote: But be careful what you wish for. "State's rights" brought you most of gun control, racial discrimination in voting and public accomodation, and lots of other unpleasant surprises. The equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, along with the due process clauses of the 14th and 5th, have prevented a lot of states from violating rights that most of us feel are the entitlements of all Americans. -- Ed Huntress All of those issues are in violation of the Constitution. So any state that promotes gun control or racial discrimination of any sort, is in violation of the Constitution and is clearly in the wrong. Recall the Constitution is the Contract by which each state agrees in order to remain in the union, and by which the Feral Government is allowed to exist. Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:21:37 GMT, Gunner
wrote: But comparing Matt Drudge to Michael Moore is very apt. They're two peas in a pod. Really? Drudge presents links to other sources, Jabba the Moore makes "documentaries" that are filled with lies, spin and hate. Another clueless idiot heard from. Moore has lots of documentation. Ever see his latest film? It's a documentary with LOTS of pictures of your heros ... you'd like it .... pretty pictures ... sit up front so that they look large ... HTH -- Cliff |
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:31:26 GMT, Gunner
wrote: My stand on States Rights is quite clear. snicker Each state may make whatever law it so desires, but it may NOT violate any article or amendment in the Constitution or BOR. That's reserved to your beloved neocons, right? -- Cliff |
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:31:26 GMT, Gunner
wrote: Those articles and amendments are the Contract between the Federal Government, the States themselves and the citizens. No contract that you did not willingly sign is valid. A forced signing is an invalid contract as well. Let's SEE your copy. poor confused gummer -- Cliff |
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:12:21 -0500, Cliff wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:34:57 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: You wanna try some polls and election results, and see who is on the middle and who is on the fringe? [ ] Yes [ ] No [ ] Nuttier than a fruitcake [ ] Mostly illiterate [ ] Wait til he gets out of the bunker to see [ ] Other (specify) ______________________ [ ] He's a liberal, you ninny BottleBob, Eat your heart out G. HTH -- Cliff |
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 06:44:40 GMT, Gunner
wrote: Im sure there were some nice people in the Nazi Party too. Not everyone in the NKVD was a bad person. Even some of the Geheimstatz Polizi loved their kids. How many of them did you join? -- Cliff |
In article , Gunner says...
I wish to further give thanks for the people who designed Jim Rozens Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie Hey I made the big time. Is this to deflect beanies, or what? Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
In article , Gunner says...
Btw...the Seperation of Church and State is a false construct..with no finding in the Constitution. Back to civics 101 for you, the first ten amendments are *part* of teh constitution. "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, nor the free exercise thereof." Which part of NO LAW didn't you understand? This is what separates government from religion. They cannot pass any laws that talk about *making* a religion, (that's the first part) and they cannot pass any laws that keep people from doing that themselves (the second part). Once you hamstring a goverment by saying they can't write up any laws about some topic like that, you pretty much drive a wedge in. They can't touch it for the most part. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show
(Frank White) wrote back on 26 Feb 2005 02:33:37 GMT in misc.survivalism : In article , says... On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:34:57 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: You wanna try some polls and election results, and see who is on the middle and who is on the fringe? Gunner is eccentric; but there is nothing to suggest in the slightest that he lacks mental balance or is a mindless drone on either the right or left wing. Hmmm, does Gunner has the net worth to be a Real Eccentric? It would be nice if he did, because that will enable his behavior to remain "eccentric" longer. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich "MTV may talk about lighting fires and killing children, but Janet Reno actually does something about it." --Spy Magazine |
I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Sat, 26 Feb 2005 06:32:13 GMT in misc.survivalism : On 26 Feb 2005 02:33:37 GMT, (Frank White) wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:34:57 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: You wanna try some polls and election results, and see who is on the middle and who is on the fringe? Gunner is eccentric; but there is nothing to suggest in the slightest that he lacks mental balance or is a mindless drone on either the right or left wing. FW Eccentric? I won? I won! I won I won I won!!!1 I wish to thank my Mom and Dad..and all the members of the Academy for this great honor, and of course all my handlers at the Home, the nice men in white coats over at HARRP HQ, the Sons of the Pioneers, Ed Huntress for polishing my boots, Hamie for sending a couple of his low class chink hookers to give me a delightful I &I, and all the Little People, like John Moses Browning, and Samuel Colt, and Felix the Cat. I wish to further give thanks for the people who designed Jim Rozens Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie and the selflish lads manning the black helicopters and the mind control rays. Great Job guys! I accept this title with the greatest honor and thanks to you all! Good night, sleep tight and dont let the bedbugs bite. Who brought the bean dip? Thats good **** Maynard! Yes, Gunner, we really do like you. :{) Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) -- pyotr filipivich "MTV may talk about lighting fires and killing children, but Janet Reno actually does something about it." --Spy Magazine |
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:45:22 GMT, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show (Frank White) wrote back on 26 Feb 2005 02:33:37 GMT in misc.survivalism : In article , says... On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:34:57 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: You wanna try some polls and election results, and see who is on the middle and who is on the fringe? Gunner is eccentric; but there is nothing to suggest in the slightest that he lacks mental balance or is a mindless drone on either the right or left wing. Hmmm, does Gunner has the net worth to be a Real Eccentric? It would be nice if he did, because that will enable his behavior to remain "eccentric" longer. I didn't know that net worth is a qualification for being eccentric. Damn. I always figured you simply had to get to a certain age to qualify. Prior to that one is just "odd". I keep waiting to make the transition, but I haven't figured out what the age is. Sue tschus pyotr |
In article , Sue says...
I didn't know that net worth is a qualification for being eccentric. Damn. I always figured you simply had to get to a certain age to qualify. Prior to that one is just "odd". I keep waiting to make the transition, but I haven't figured out what the age is. No, it's not an age thing. He's eccentric because he owns *guns*. He's eccentric because he has all that strange *machinery* on his property. He's eccentric because he engages in deeply-felt political discussions. Uh oh. Hold on there a minute.... Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:24:17 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: But be careful what you wish for. "State's rights" brought you most of gun control, racial discrimination in voting and public accomodation, and lots of other unpleasant surprises. The equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, along with the due process clauses of the 14th and 5th, have prevented a lot of states from violating rights that most of us feel are the entitlements of all Americans. -- Ed Huntress All of those issues are in violation of the Constitution. So any state that promotes gun control or racial discrimination of any sort, is in violation of the Constitution and is clearly in the wrong. Thank you, Dr. Gunner. I'll look forward to reading your crank book when it comes out. You've sure accumulated a lot of examples from the genre to guide your research. d8-) Recall the Constitution is the Contract by which each state agrees in order to remain in the union, and by which the Feral Government is allowed to exist. The Contract, as you put it, includes the premise that the federal government will not impose the Bill of Rights upon the states. You can read the debates from the First Congress and the citations in Barron v. Baltimore to satisfy yourself on that account. The irony here is that the reversal that occurred to this relationship, by way of Lincoln and his actions that led to the Reconstruction Amendments, is precisely what gets DiLorenzo's panties in a twist -- a point of view you defend in other threads. Or, you can keep reading your blogs, and melt your mind into a puddle. -- Ed Huntress |
"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:41:14 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: The point was, Frank, that Gunner claimed that I'm on the left, which I most definitely am not. After years of looking at polls and election results I can document that I'm about as close as you'll see to the center of American opinion on political issues. Sure Ed...if you repeat it long enough, perhaps someone will start to believe you. I guess that means you're too chicken to try it out, eh? g bwawwkk!...chick, chick, chick..... -- Ed Huntress |
"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:16:00 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . My stand on States Rights is quite clear. Each state may make whatever law it so desires, but it may NOT violate any article or amendment in the Constitution or BOR. Those articles and amendments are the Contract between the Federal Government, the States themselves and the citizens. Anything not covered in the Constitution and BOR is the province of the States and its citizens. States may set their own speed limits. States may NOT interfere with the 1st Amendment and set up a mandated state religion for example. Each state is a sovereign individual, in a union with other states. The agreement of all the states who wish to be in the union is the following of the Constitution and the BOR. Quite simple. Very clear. No ambiguity. And why is it you think that the 1st Amendment disallows states from setting up state-sponsored religions? Is it because of the way the Amendment is written, or something else? Because the very wise men who wrote it intended it to be this way..and then everyone agreed to it and signed on to the Contract..and made sure that any new states must honor the same contract before they would be accepted into the Union. That's very interesting. I didn't realize you were old enough to have known the FF's "intentions." And here, I always thought they meant what they said -- as in the case of the debates over the Bill of Rights in the First Congress. Btw...the Seperation of Church and State is a false construct..with no finding in the Constitution. This is going to be one hell of a book when you get it into print. Jerry Falwell probably can find a publisher for you. -- Ed Huntress |
Ed Huntress wrote:
"Gunner" wrote in message ... Because the very wise men who wrote it intended it to be this way..and then everyone agreed to it and signed on to the Contract..and made sure that any new states must honor the same contract before they would be accepted into the Union. That's very interesting. I didn't realize you were old enough to have known the FF's "intentions." Gunner has an Ouija board. |
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Sue wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:45:22 GMT, pyotr filipivich wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show (Frank White) wrote back on 26 Feb 2005 02:33:37 GMT in misc.survivalism : In article , says... On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:34:57 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: You wanna try some polls and election results, and see who is on the middle and who is on the fringe? Gunner is eccentric; but there is nothing to suggest in the slightest that he lacks mental balance or is a mindless drone on either the right or left wing. Hmmm, does Gunner has the net worth to be a Real Eccentric? It would be nice if he did, because that will enable his behavior to remain "eccentric" longer. I didn't know that net worth is a qualification for being eccentric. Damn. I always figured you simply had to get to a certain age to qualify. Prior to that one is just "odd". I keep waiting to make the transition, but I haven't figured out what the age is. Sue tschus pyotr To quote Sue; "Prior to that one is just "odd"". Wasn't there some kind of club, lodge, groups called the IOOF, "International Order of Odd Fellows"????? If there was maybe Gunner, I and a bunch of other "Odd" fellows, that hang around here, could form a virtual lodge of "Odd Fellows" -- The Independent of Clackamas County "What experience and history teach is this -- That people and governments never have learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it" George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel 1770-1831 |
The Independent of Clackamas County wrote:
Wasn't there some kind of club, lodge, groups called the IOOF, "International Order of Odd Fellows"????? If there was maybe Gunner, I and a bunch of other "Odd" fellows, that hang around here, could form a virtual lodge of "Odd Fellows" There sure is try the following: http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/ http://www.ratbags.com/ranters/ Strider is already a member of the first. |
Guido wrote:
The Independent of Clackamas County wrote: Wasn't there some kind of club, lodge, groups called the IOOF, "International Order of Odd Fellows"????? If there was maybe Gunner, I and a bunch of other "Odd" fellows, that hang around here, could form a virtual lodge of "Odd Fellows" There sure is try the following: http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/ http://www.ratbags.com/ranters/ Strider is already a member of the first. That is the Independent Order of Odd Fellows. They also have a female degree membership of the Rebekhas. I went to there Web Site and it sounds like a fine and noble enterprise and surly not to the likes of those who inhabit this board. As the Independent Order of Odd Fellows is based on Friendship, love and Truth. Their is very little Friendship here. There ain't no love, and truth here is about as rare as fresh water in the middle of the ocean. -- The Independent of Clackamas County "What experience and history teach is this -- That people and governments never have learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it" George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel 1770-1831 |
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:44:42 +0000, Guido wrote:
The Independent of Clackamas County wrote: Wasn't there some kind of club, lodge, groups called the IOOF, "International Order of Odd Fellows"????? If there was maybe Gunner, I and a bunch of other "Odd" fellows, that hang around here, could form a virtual lodge of "Odd Fellows" There sure is try the following: http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/ A search for "Shu" turned up a Golden Killfile award ..... -- Cliff |
The Independent of Clackamas County wrote:
Their is very little Friendship here. There ain't no love, and truth here is about as rare as fresh water in the middle of the ocean. You're looking for a cyberhug from Gunner and Strider? Mfffmm fmpmfpmfffmm mfmfmfffm mpfppfpff pffmppmmmpmf? |
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:59:00 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:41:14 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: The point was, Frank, that Gunner claimed that I'm on the left, which I most definitely am not. After years of looking at polls and election results I can document that I'm about as close as you'll see to the center of American opinion on political issues. Sure Ed...if you repeat it long enough, perhaps someone will start to believe you. I guess that means you're too chicken to try it out, eh? g bwawwkk!...chick, chick, chick..... To try what out? Bashing my head on the concrete curb until I become a Liberal? Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:09:47 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
wrote: Because the very wise men who wrote it intended it to be this way..and then everyone agreed to it and signed on to the Contract..and made sure that any new states must honor the same contract before they would be accepted into the Union. That's very interesting. I didn't realize you were old enough to have known the FF's "intentions." And here, I always thought they meant what they said -- as in the case of the debates over the Bill of Rights in the First Congress. Btw...the Seperation of Church and State is a false construct..with no finding in the Constitution. This is going to be one hell of a book when you get it into print. Jerry Falwell probably can find a publisher for you. -- Ed Huntress Actually Ed..there were two books already written on the subjects..by the Founders themselves. The Federalist Papers The Anti-Federalist Papers Need the links? Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:06:18 -0800, "PrecisionMachinisT"
wrote: Quite simply, I sleep where its comfortably warm......and if that happens to be with the dogs, then so be it.......the dogs got our cats beat hands down when it comes to that particular attibute. -- SVL Individually..my dogs are warmer. However..I can have up to 6 or more cats on the bed at the same time...and they tend to be snuggly. Now on the other hand..all three house dogs and the 6 or more cats and it tends to get mighty toasty.. Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:56:53 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
wrote: Or, you can keep reading your blogs, and melt your mind into a puddle. -- Ed Huntress Quite frankly Edwardo..there are only 4 things I need to read. http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html http://www.law.ou.edu/hist/federalist/ http://www.constitution.org/afp/afp.htm http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/const.html all else is bull****. Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
On 26 Feb 2005 07:19:23 -0800, jim rozen
wrote: In article , Gunner says... Btw...the Seperation of Church and State is a false construct..with no finding in the Constitution. Back to civics 101 for you, the first ten amendments are *part* of teh constitution. "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, nor the free exercise thereof." Which part of NO LAW didn't you understand? This ALSO means that there shall also be No Law that prevents religious expression. This is what separates government from religion. They cannot pass any laws that talk about *making* a religion, (that's the first part) and they cannot pass any laws that keep people from doing that themselves (the second part). Once you hamstring a goverment by saying they can't write up any laws about some topic like that, you pretty much drive a wedge in. They can't touch it for the most part. See above. You are only looking at ONE side of the coin. Jim The separation of church and state creedo came from a letter written by Jefferson to a minister. Period. End program. Full stop. Its been used consistantly since then by the Left to shackle religion. http://www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html Mr. President To mess? Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut. Gentlemen The affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing. Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state. [Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from presenting even occasional performances of devotion presented indeed legally where an Executive is the legal head of a national church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect.] Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem. (signed) Thomas Jefferson Jan.1.1802. Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:59:00 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:41:14 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: The point was, Frank, that Gunner claimed that I'm on the left, which I most definitely am not. After years of looking at polls and election results I can document that I'm about as close as you'll see to the center of American opinion on political issues. Sure Ed...if you repeat it long enough, perhaps someone will start to believe you. I guess that means you're too chicken to try it out, eh? g bwawwkk!...chick, chick, chick..... To try what out? Bashing my head on the concrete curb until I become a Liberal? I'm sorry, Gunner, but bashing your head won't do it. In fact, I think it would leave you in the opposite condition. d8-) What I meant was, pulling up some political/social-issue polls from the major pollsters and seeing just what kind of an outlier you are. "Outlier" means you're out on the edge of the scale. -- Ed Huntress |
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 00:09:29 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
wrote: To try what out? Bashing my head on the concrete curb until I become a Liberal? I'm sorry, Gunner, but bashing your head won't do it. In fact, I think it would leave you in the opposite condition. d8-) Actually it would Ed..as brain damage is a requirement to hold the Liberal positions. What I meant was, pulling up some political/social-issue polls from the major pollsters and seeing just what kind of an outlier you are. "Outlier" means you're out on the edge of the scale. -- Ed Huntress Why should I bother? Frankly Ed..I dont compare myself to anyone but me. You on the other hand..seem to think you are snug in the middle of the Warm and Fuzzy Zone..aka Apathy Central. Based on your posts..you are a RINO. Republican In Name Only. You hold a few conservative positions, and you appear to hold quite a few positions that are well Left of center. This btw..does not allow you to use Averaging in an attempt to define your political position. Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:43:01 GMT, Gunner
wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:59:00 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:41:14 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: The point was, Frank, that Gunner claimed that I'm on the left, which I most definitely am not. After years of looking at polls and election results I can document that I'm about as close as you'll see to the center of American opinion on political issues. Sure Ed...if you repeat it long enough, perhaps someone will start to believe you. I guess that means you're too chicken to try it out, eh? g bwawwkk!...chick, chick, chick..... To try what out? Bashing my head on the concrete curb until I become a Liberal? Why damage perfectly good cement? -- Cliff |
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:09:47 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
wrote: Btw...the Seperation of Church and State is a false construct..with no finding in the Constitution. This is going to be one hell of a book when you get it into print. Jerry Falwell probably can find a publisher for you. http://www.zondervan.com/ HTH -- Cliff |
"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 00:09:29 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: To try what out? Bashing my head on the concrete curb until I become a Liberal? I'm sorry, Gunner, but bashing your head won't do it. In fact, I think it would leave you in the opposite condition. d8-) Actually it would Ed..as brain damage is a requirement to hold the Liberal positions. What I meant was, pulling up some political/social-issue polls from the major pollsters and seeing just what kind of an outlier you are. "Outlier" means you're out on the edge of the scale. -- Ed Huntress Why should I bother? Frankly Ed..I dont compare myself to anyone but me. That's nice, but you don't hesitate to compare *me* to your chuckleheaded concept of the "left." You treat yourself as incomparable, but you have the rest of the population pigeonholed into your little conceptual boxes, which are made of straw. You on the other hand..seem to think you are snug in the middle of the Warm and Fuzzy Zone..aka Apathy Central. The issue only comes up when you characterize yourself as being in the "new majority," while you simultaneously slot everyone else. Based on your posts..you are a RINO. Republican In Name Only. You hold a few conservative positions, and you appear to hold quite a few positions that are well Left of center. This btw..does not allow you to use Averaging in an attempt to define your political position. There, you've just done it again. See above. -- Ed Huntress |
"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:09:47 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: Because the very wise men who wrote it intended it to be this way..and then everyone agreed to it and signed on to the Contract..and made sure that any new states must honor the same contract before they would be accepted into the Union. That's very interesting. I didn't realize you were old enough to have known the FF's "intentions." And here, I always thought they meant what they said -- as in the case of the debates over the Bill of Rights in the First Congress. Btw...the Seperation of Church and State is a false construct..with no finding in the Constitution. This is going to be one hell of a book when you get it into print. Jerry Falwell probably can find a publisher for you. -- Ed Huntress Actually Ed..there were two books already written on the subjects..by the Founders themselves. The Federalist Papers The Anti-Federalist Papers Need the links? Maybe you can save us all some time. Which of them won? -- Ed Huntress |
"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:56:53 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: Or, you can keep reading your blogs, and melt your mind into a puddle. -- Ed Huntress Quite frankly Edwardo..there are only 4 things I need to read. http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html http://www.law.ou.edu/hist/federalist/ http://www.constitution.org/afp/afp.htm http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/const.html all else is bull****. If you ever figure out what they mean, you'll be in good shape. -- Ed Huntress |
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... On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:09:47 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: Btw...the Seperation of Church and State is a false construct..with no finding in the Constitution. This is going to be one hell of a book when you get it into print. Jerry Falwell probably can find a publisher for you. http://www.zondervan.com/ I'll bet the _ Zondervan 2005 Minister's Tax and Financial Guide_ is some pretty hot reading. Do you get a soul-depletion allowance when members of your flock die and get buried in the church bone orchard? -- Ed Huntress |
ROTFLMAO!!! Intrepid On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 06:32:13 GMT, Gunner wrote: Gunner is eccentric; but there is nothing to suggest in the slightest that he lacks mental balance or is a mindless drone on either the right or left wing. FW Eccentric? I won? I won! I won I won I won!!!1 I wish to thank my Mom and Dad..and all the members of the Academy for this great honor, and of course all my handlers at the Home, the nice men in white coats over at HARRP HQ, the Sons of the Pioneers, Ed Huntress for polishing my boots, Hamie for sending a couple of his low class chink hookers to give me a delightful I &I, and all the Little People, like John Moses Browning, and Samuel Colt, and Felix the Cat. I wish to further give thanks for the people who designed Jim Rozens Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie and the selflish lads manning the black helicopters and the mind control rays. Great Job guys! I accept this title with the greatest honor and thanks to you all! Good night, sleep tight and dont let the bedbugs bite. Who brought the bean dip? Thats good **** Maynard! Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
In article , Gunner says...
"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, nor the free exercise thereof." Which part of NO LAW didn't you understand? This ALSO means that there shall also be No Law that prevents religious expression. And no law that *requires* it, either. Gummint should not be in the god business. The ministers should stick to the god biz, and the legislators should stick to the law biz. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:51:28 -0800, The Independent of Clackamas
County wrote: Guido wrote: The Independent of Clackamas County wrote: Wasn't there some kind of club, lodge, groups called the IOOF, "International Order of Odd Fellows"????? If there was maybe Gunner, I and a bunch of other "Odd" fellows, that hang around here, could form a virtual lodge of "Odd Fellows" There sure is try the following: http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/ http://www.ratbags.com/ranters/ Strider is already a member of the first. That is the Independent Order of Odd Fellows. They also have a female degree membership of the Rebekhas. I went to there Web Site and it sounds like a fine and noble enterprise and surly not to the likes of those who inhabit this board. As the Independent Order of Odd Fellows is based on Friendship, love and Truth. Their is very little Friendship here. There ain't no love, and truth here is about as rare as fresh water in the middle of the ocean. JIm, you sound like you need a hug. Strider |
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