"John Rumm" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:

While I have it stored, no one is going to mine it... ;-)


Are you absolutely 100% copper-bottomed certain of that?

Depends on the resources and determination of the attacker! ;-)

Where on Earth have you put it?

Nice try ;-)

(do I get my Easter egg now?)

Yes, darling. Of course.

I've devised an Easter Egg Hunt specially for you :-)

Off you go ...

Build a shed. A concrete one with steel doors and properly alarmed.

Got one of them ;-) guess what....


er - no?

Its full....!

Build another. Then another. Our bloomin' garden is littered with the
things. Apparently it's vital to have somewhere to store sheets of glass.
They're never used, just stored.

Friends of mine seem concerned that if fraud is carried out on their
cards they (the friends) won't have the protection they used to have. I'm
not an

I think the basic foundation of joint and several liability remains the
same.

expert on this, I had changes to conditions this morning and am still
wading through them. We seem to get changes with every statement, it's
not easy to keep up with them.

They will update them to include extra information on not writing your PIN
is "plain text" and keeping it with your card, and on not disclosing your
pin etc. As you say, paying attention to the detail is the only way to be
sure).

Did I say that??? Mmmmmmmmm. I didn't know I had it in me.

Probably a good move to practice typing your pin in such a way as to avoid
people "shoulder surfing" it though if you are going to use it.

The problem is that I can't remember it. I have a difficulty with numbers as
a legacy of brain surgery. I thought i was unique but in that, as with
everything else, I'm not sigh

Please don't go through all the possibilities of remembering one, it's been
done ad nauseam.

The tender process brings its own problems ... less involvement from
parties with vested interests.


Such as?

There are a surprising number of ex Anderson's/Accenture,

oh in small voice

and EDS staff in key places in government... (the PMG for starters) Also
(as with all governments) there is a high level of lobbying and
inducements from key IT suppliers.

....





That may be true, but it makes two assumptions. Firstly that the
holders of the information are benign,


There is no proof that they are not.

Can you substantiate that statement?


Of course not.

You can't prove that anyone is benign either.

No but I can find you plenty of examples of situation where peoples
personal data have been given up by those who should have been taking
better care of it.

I believe that but since it can and does already happenand avenues for doing
it are increasing all the time the thing you're worried about will be just
one more.


I live under a stone, obviously. It's very nice though, a happy stone
with lots of other happy people. The only sad thing is that so many
others aren't, presumably for the reasons in your last paragraph.

Put yourself in the position of a former special ops soldier returning
from a tour of Northern Ireland on anti terrorism duty. How do you suppose
he would feel knowing that there is a database that tracks his address
(and all former addresses), plus all the day to day habits, movements,
transactions and patterns of his life. Extreme example I know, but there
are many reasons that someone law abiding with "nothing to hide" may in
fact have very good reasons to hide some things.

It's not an extreme example, I know several such people, one is a Colonel
and he HATES all the security imposed on him. If it were up to him he
wouldn't have any of it. He doesn't want to hide anything.

Our RAF son worked hard for his rank, he's proud of it and hates being told
that it mustn't be used on addresses. He resents only being allowed to wear
his uniform in public on certain occasions.

Not everyone thinks the same way as others. We're all individuals with
different characters and priorities, nothing can change that. Historically,
under the most rigid and controlled regimes, that has never changed and it
won't under any ID system - especially the one which is being considered at
the moment.

My sadness is that people still think it can - and cite fantasy fiction to
uphold their beliefs.

Mary