"Brian G" wrote in message
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And when they
ultimately fit the 'little black box' into your car under the guise
of 'paying for the road you use' then they will be able to track you
on every journey right down to the time that you got into the car
and then got out again.

We log our own journeys so that's nothing new. Except that we also
log the reason for our journeys.

You do that for your own purposes either to claim expenses or just as a
historical record -

We've no idea why we do it, it began many vehicles ago and has become a
habit. Can be interesting though.

it would be a little different if a 'civil servant' is
sat at a desk in the wilds of Scotland watching your every move in your
car
and then sending the local plod around later to ask why you went there in
the first place.

I'd tell him/her, we've nothing to hide. If we were in the wilds of Scotland
there would be others to provide authoritative reasons for our presence.

BTW, if you have a mobile phone, you can be tracked by GPS to within
a few metres - even with it turned off.

Yes ... and your point is? That could be an advantage.

My point is that if it was wanted, you can be tracked wherever you go to -
and I am sure that there are some places you don't want all-and-sundry
knowing that you have been there?

I can think of none.

I propose to install cctv in your home, grumps. I'm going to wire
it to every room, so that we can watch you night and day. You will
only object to this if you are either illegal in this country or
have something to hide...

It wouldn't bother me. You'd get bored out of you paranoid mind
watching it. Can you imagine the result of your fears? Half the
population watching the other half 24/7?

That is exactly what will happen - you will be constantly looking
over your
shoulder to see who is watching or following you.

Not me.

Easy to say that now, but I wonder if the attitude will be the same in a
few
years time?

Well, attitudes do change - by the same token so might yours :-)

I understand that people compete to be on Big Brother.

True, but wait until the Though Police come to take you to room 101 :-)

You've been reading a book again! It was fiction, by the way.

Who watches the watchers? Not Blunkett.

There will be no need, a climate of fear will have been instilled
and the population will watch each other whilst the likes of
Blunkett and Clark can
sleep safely in their beds surrounded by all the trappings of the
pampered.

Since, according to you and MM and others - we're already being
watched, why isn't there already a climate of fear among the majority
of people - i.e. those with nothing to be guilty about?


Mary, EVERYBODY has something to be guilty about

I don't know how you can know that.

I haven't anything to be guilty about. The things I've done wrong are
already known and/or admitted to. I've committed two crimes, one was
speeding without realising. My smile was recorded, I paid the fine with no
plea because I approve of speed cameras. The other, driving without a
licence 36 years ago, was dismissed because the beak, quite rightly,
realised that it was because of an oversight.

and it's that guilt,
perceived or fact, that can be worked on to instill a climate of fear out
of
all proportion to that guilt without you even realising about it.

Have you ever promised something and then reneged on that promise and felt
guilty after?

I haven't deliberately renaged on any promise, if I commit myself to
anything it's done no matter what the cost. When I've forgotten a promise
I've apologised, deeply and sincerely.

We're known for our reliability.

All that sounds priggish, we're not perfect but we have nothing at all to
hide. All our faults are very well known.

Mary

Brian G