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Brian G
 
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Mary Fisher wrote:
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I am neither, and I resent your offensive insinuations. I simply
wish to enjoy my traditional British birthright of privacy,

er-birthright?

The only birthright any person has is that of being breast fed.

er - British?

What do you think your birthright would have been before the union?

without being tracked, tagged and surveilled by an unaccountable
army of public and commercial 'security services'.

Oh come on!


Mary, you are tracked now, you cannot go onto a major motorway or
road without being 'logged' by cameras that can read your number
plate AND take a
very good photo of the driver and front seat passenger.


I know. That's why I always smile :-)


Nice one.

And when they
ultimately fit the 'little black box' into your car under the guise
of 'paying for the road you use' then they will be able to track you
on every journey right down to the time that you got into the car
and then got out again.


We log our own journeys so that's nothing new. Except that we also
log the reason for our journeys.


You do that for your own purposes either to claim expenses or just as a
historical record - it would be a little different if a 'civil servant' is
sat at a desk in the wilds of Scotland watching your every move in your car
and then sending the local plod around later to ask why you went there in
the first place.

BTW, if you have a mobile phone, you can be tracked by GPS to within
a few metres - even with it turned off.


Yes ... and your point is? That could be an advantage.


My point is that if it was wanted, you can be tracked wherever you go to -
and I am sure that there are some places you don't want all-and-sundry
knowing that you have been there?

I propose to install cctv in your home, grumps. I'm going to wire
it to every room, so that we can watch you night and day. You will
only object to this if you are either illegal in this country or
have something to hide...

It wouldn't bother me. You'd get bored out of you paranoid mind
watching it. Can you imagine the result of your fears? Half the
population watching the other half 24/7?


That is exactly what will happen - you will be constantly looking
over your
shoulder to see who is watching or following you.


Not me.


Easy to say that now, but I wonder if the attitude will be the same in a few
years time?

I understand that people compete to be on Big Brother.


True, but wait until the Though Police come to take you to room 101 :-)
Who watches the watchers? Not Blunkett.


There will be no need, a climate of fear will have been instilled
and the population will watch each other whilst the likes of
Blunkett and Clark can
sleep safely in their beds surrounded by all the trappings of the
pampered.


Since, according to you and MM and others - we're already being
watched, why isn't there already a climate of fear among the majority
of people - i.e. those with nothing to be guilty about?


Mary, EVERYBODY has something to be guilty about and it's that guilt,
perceived or fact, that can be worked on to instill a climate of fear out of
all proportion to that guilt without you even realising about it.

Have you ever promised something and then reneged on that promise and felt
guilty after?

Brian G