No offense taken, I should be a little more articulate
when responding.
Son in law went after a
grizzly last fall with a .338mag. He shot maybe at
75yds broke both shoulders but the bruin still charged.
The guide stopped it with a couple out of a 375h&h. It
fell at spitting distance. A month after he got back he sold his
44mag, I asked why and his reason was that he got it for
bear and now he felt it would be worthless..if needed.........after
the last bear his third griz.
I found some spent 45-70 cases a while a ago without headstamps
circa pre 1880. Very thin walled with rolled heads, (metal content) a
lot lighter than modern types.
These guys at garrett
are big on the guide gun, I think their african tales are
pushing it a bit:
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=45-...m/reviews2.asp
DE
re. cartridge and caliber description. Most of us know the venerable 45-70
Govt. cartridge is still made and that some manufacturers supply "modern"
firemarms for this old black powder cartridge. Some aren't aware of this;
there is a distinct danger they may get the impression old rifles can handle
the new "45-70" ammo.
Case in point: Recently on the target range, an idiot on the next bench was
spraying me with lead shavings and unburnt powder. Just before I got up to
leave, he stops and begins looking at (not through) his scope. The cross
hair and post reticle was laying on the bottom. Excessive recoil from hot
handloads in a new 45-70 had wrecked the scope. The idiot said he was using
handloads he got from a friend that loaded the 45-70 up to some super
big-game power.
Bob Swinney
"DE" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:42:04 -0600, "Robert Swinney"
wrote:
DE sez: " Neither actually, I prefer a 45-70 lever with the 405 gr solid
over a full house charge of 3031."
Not too well up on your guns are you. 45-70 (??) I doubt you can get any
45-70 ammo short of loading it yourself. Wouldn't what you propose be
more
accurately termed, "45-full house charge of 3031"?
Bob (gun nuts are appropriately named) Swinney
Well Bob, first off I happen to live and work in grizzly country.
And I speak for what I feel is a good "dangerous game weapon"
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firear...ion/1895GS.htm
The guide gun is a great "just in case gun" it
is popular among professional guidesin both Alaska and Africa. For a
"looking for trouble gun" I'd pack a bolt rifle in any old caliber as
long as it starts with a 4.
I've been rolling my own for many a year and have no problem
carrying that in bear country. But for those who want tailor mades
these have a good rep
http://www.cpcartridge.com/45-70ruger-P.htm
But there are lots of other factory 45-70 cartridges still available
at most any sporting goods store in this area.
DE
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